how to advance my progress?
 

So I am still making progress towards my goal of my wife becoming a hotwife.
I think she needs and wants it, and I would love to see it.
I have been working at this for over a year now and seeing progress.
She loves the idea of another guy or two guys or more in bed.
She initiates bedroom talk about this.
She knows very clearly I would love to see her with a guy, or that she can do what she wants with other guys.
I personally know a couple guys my wife has volunteered on her own she would absolutely fuck, but I don't know how to broach that subject with these guys and ensure things would stay discreet- what she desires and chooses to share/ talk about is not the same- in other words she wouldn't want anyone to know she was freaky, or, that I offered my wife up to them.

So, my progress has plateaued...
So, as for next steps...

I know she would NOT be interested in sites like this (says they are too pervy). Internet porn in general grosses her out (but porn on tv is ok, go figure).
She does not like to talk about it in any depth outside the bedroom. She gets very embarrassed (which I see actually as a good sign).

So, the one thing I keep thinking is- if i can team up with a guy or guys on here that are willing to help seduce her, I think that would work. I think a more "natural" approach would work- as in simply a goodlooking guy hitting on her and giving her alot of attention.

I am certain that if me and my wife were out and she were hit on and she was interested in the guy and I let her know clearly she could do whatever she wanted- she would do it. Maybe not the first time, but it would happen.

I think for this to work fastest I would have to prearrange this. She likes to dress up and look sexy, when we go out I notice guys looking (sometimes staring) but no one ever approaches. She is attractive and sexy, so that's not the issue. I have even seen guys stop in their tracks and watch her go by just to see the backside (she's got a big juicy butt) and I have told her what I have seen, and at times she has asked about it later, like, "what did that guy in target do/ say/ etc.?"

But I have reservations about this- I would be setting something up behind her back (asking guys from here or asking the guys I know). If it all works out, its water under the bridge. But if she were to catch on or find out- that would be bad.

Anyone have any better suggestions? Or maybe this is a good idea? Any honest help would be apprceciated.

no help?
 

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I am in almost the same situation. We already do threesomes MMF, but no black cock yet. When I finger my girl, I am using three or more fingers and say to her that it is just like a big cock.She starts to moan and cum.

She knows I like IR sex. She doesn't ignore this, but she doesn't talk about it too. So I am not 100% sure about her opinion.

I have think about the same thing like you. Set up a meeting with some good looking guys from here and let's see what happens.

thanks squirt, I know I'm not alone.
how do you feel about setting it up?

I am still in a doubt about it. I think that reading good story's about it will help, or watching good movies about it. But no hardcore porn.

In Europe it looks quite difficult to find a bbc.

Briggs, I am in the same exact situation. I've wondered about doing what you are contemplating, setting something up that seems natural, that she has no idea is a set up. Would love to know how you make out.

My experience is that wome are very very smart and that they are able to feel when it is a setup :)

exactly- i would want it to be natural....
thanks for your input.

i am still working on it, no progres to report, however...

Yesterday I watched a serie about swinging couples. One of the boys was a black man. I watched it with my girl and she didn't ignored it.

Also fucked her yesterday with a big pink vibrator :D I think, when I take care, and when I am patience, it will happen once, but I don't know when :)

You'll have more success if you can put her in a comfort zone and then add the extra guys to the equation. Have a party or have your guy friends have a party. Ask her to go to the kitchen and fetch beer then whisper in her ear over the course of the night how sexy she looks and then start telling her about the looks she's getting when she goes in & out of the room. Let nature take it's course. Inevitably she'll catch someone's eye and they'll take it to the next level.

Doing it too
 

Even though my wife and I have done the IR 3some before it has been a while and I am now setting up a seduction scenario. In anticipation that she catches on before hand I decided; a. to be absolutely honest about it if confronted and if it is successful honest about it anyway, and b. I am writing a letter prior to the event - pretty much explaining why I did what I did. Actually the seduction scenario is also a fantasy of ours - at least we have talked about it - but that secrecy had to be part of the plan in order to make it work out right. I will keep you posted.

thanks guys- some helpful insight!

See the link from another thread
 

ok just got the jist of it. But be upfront to all. Tell them this is a choice and a discreet choice. If you can not all be adult about it your not going forward. This is what we did. Worked out till things got a little stupid.

Dont beat around the bush. Dont try to trick her. Just go with it. The fantasy of having a guy seduce her is your fantasy. In reality it might be easier to just arrange to get together and see what happens. If you all know it might happen it just might.

Thanks for this great information. I read the document and will work on it :)

Hi
 

Hi, just left a message on another thread you directed to here.
I know a guy thats used your lovin whispers tech and others and he told me it definitely worked for him.
Notice people saying don't trick her and just get her seduced but seduction is a tricking someone by hook and by crook into bed.
I know if i come straight out with asking her to fuck black men she will just back right away and that will be the end of it and if I get some black friend over even with plying drinks she will not cope with this NO WAY.

Thanks again for the input and tips.

Some more background. My wife has a curvy body- like 36c-30-42 or so and has a round ass.

She headed off to a kid's bday party the other day in a predominately black section of town and before she left did a fashion show for me as to what looked good. Nothing too sexy or anything, but she was def. trying to look good. Right before she left she asked if any black guys would like her booty and of course I said, absolutely they will, and all the rest of you, if you let them. And she just smiled as she drove away.

I have asked her in the past if she would have sex with a black guy and she said yes, other times she has said no.

I have told her a huge fantasy of mine is for her to get fucked by another man- with or without me watching. I just want her to be pleasured and her being happy makes me happy, etc. I have had that talk with her. Her answer has been- no way, but in bed she plays it up. But at the same time the last time we got a porno she said no black guys when I when into the area of the selection.

So I am just confused. I have seen others in similar situations.

Anyway, I will try the sleep technique, and I do want to get her dancing out at a club, I then wonder, why not just arrange to have a guy there to maybe move things along....

But I do all see your points. thanks

Living in hope