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[wscreate]

The wife and I had the talk again about taking another man into the bedroom. She asked me why I would allow it and I said that I only want her to be satisfied. She said she is satisfied and, quite frankly, I do fuck her tight pussy right even though I am not porn star endowed. She told me she is not into black guys or asian guys, but she does like to be fucked hard and she admitted she has a fascination with big cocks...(she barely admitted this, it took her awhile). I asked her if she wanted to put an ad out somewhere and she refused again and said under no circumstances. So, as it is, I am putting this to rest for now as I am making no progress.

[pspump]

It all sounds good untill you say its ok "As long as I am present"..... If you want her to feel free to do it then let her be "free to do it"

[wscreate]

Originally Posted by pspump

It all sounds good untill you say its ok "As long as I am present"..... If you want her to feel free to do it then let her be "free to do it"

That might work for you, but it is not what I am looking for and, according to our conversations, is not what she is looking for. And, as it is, she is free to do it without my knowledge. That is called cheating and that is a boundary which I still recognize and hope that she does too. I prefer to keep this within boundaries, that is, we can both have a little play time as long as it is with openness between the two of us, and that I am present. There is also the safety issue of it. I would not feel comfortable having her meeting strangers for sex. If I am there, then I feel she is more safe. Anyway...

[notact]

You might try taking her out to a club where she could just dance with other guys some, (if you're "too tired to dance" or can't dance to slow/fast songs). Once she gets comfortable being in anothers embrace, you could "discuss" if she felt him rubbing up against her with his cock. As she gets more comfortable with it perhaps she'll even "dance" with a black guy and "notice" how he grinds against her.

Sounds to me like you/she are making some progress, slow, but progress, (remember SHE'S in charge of her own progress).

Just my two cents

[wscreate]

Originally Posted by notact

You might try taking her out to a club where she could just dance with other guys some, (if you're "too tired to dance" or can't dance to slow/fast songs). Once she gets comfortable being in anothers embrace, you could "discuss" if she felt him rubbing up against her with his cock.

Hmmm... I don't think the club thing will work for her and I. It's not something we are into. We go occasionally with friends, but she is more of a classy woman and in her late 40's. No, it won't be the club scene, but thanks for the suggestion. However, it is probably a good idea for her to be around some black guys to interact and see if the interaction is of interest to her.

We spoke about this a little in bed and I am not sure if this will remain a fantasy or turn into something more real. She continues to deny she wants to go further and I will look like a weird asshole if I keep bringing it up. There's not much else I can do, unless someone here has any thoughts on this. I am open minded and will let her experience this at least once to see how it works, but it is up to her to let me know that she wants to do it.

[wscreate]

We talked some more about the subject of entertaining another man in our man (her of course). While she admitted she likes the porn where the guy is muscular and fucks the woman fast and hard, she said she does not care if he is black or white or whatever. She was trying to say, I guess, that her fascination is not with the whole "black thing" and more into a guy with a muscular physique with a big cock.

I have let this rest, mostly. However, I do send her porn pics occasionally and she looks at them with me on occasion. When I remain silent on the issue of adding a third to our bed, she does not bring it up.

One interesting development, she saw me talking to a younger woman at a party recently. My wife had done a few shots of whiskey and was quite drunk. She was jealous of the woman because the woman had wide hips and a plump butt as I like. On our way home (walking), she told me that she accepts if I want to fuck the woman or some other woman, but that she doesn't want me to leave the marriage.... that she wants to stay together. So, if I must find some younger woman to fuck, to do it and get it out of my system. I can't imagine she meant it because she was so drunk. I did ask her later if she meant it (when she was sober) and she said that, ulimately, she would not leave me, but she would prefer if I didn't fuck other women.

I don't know where it came from. Maybe some things can be explained away as alcohol induced, or maybe she is repeating back to me what she thinks I want to hear. In other words, if she rewards me with a woman in my bed, maybe she will feel it is okay to fuck another man.

What do you think?
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