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[BlkmanSweden]

Originally Posted by Kalflcik

A worthy topic indeed.....

There isn't really an easy reply to the statements. I will break it down though, and some people will probably be offended....

When it comes to black women in particular, she is the most insecure woman on the planet due to obvious agendas played out through history. The white woman is put on a pedestal for the world, and it has gotten to the point where the black woman wishes to emulate the white woman, at least what she thinks is a white woman in nature. The black woman has been brainwashed and is trying her best to ride the wave of the feminist movement, which never was designed in her favor, rather in the favor of rich bitter WHITE housewives. Based on her wanting to have everything that she believes white women have, she puts the white mans status on a pedestal and he becomes the standard of what she expects. She projects these expectations onto her own men. The result is a constant degradation of black men, all done by none other than the black woman herself. Competition is the order of the day. Competition with her own man in order to feel that she has the status of a white woman, and in order to push black men to be as "great" as white men.

In the midst of this all comes the white woman, who now wants a more meaningful connection with men. The white woman sees the black man as a connection back to reality.

We dont all play out this pattern, but it is what happens on a large scale. Not all white women are supportive of men in relationships, and not all black women put too many expectations on their men either.

You have a strong Point about blackwomen not feeling part of the feminist movement, i live in sweden and a feminist party has been very well established. Feminism is absolutley flourishing here in which Swedish men dont feel like a man anymore and feels he been turned into a wussy but whitewomen here are very much off limits to foreign men and they have Power, i sometimes ask myself if many whitewomen have to feel some kind of oppression from whitemen to feel attracted to blackmen because blackmen give whitewomen attention no matter how they look and whitewomen know its guaranteed. whitewomen here in sweden have lot of Power but are afraid to date foreign men and now Swedish men are looking to asian women instead of there own so although feminism is flourishing it really actually is not flourishing, its like its wired in there Brains to Think it is.

You are so true about the blackwoman are frustrated in a way at not really having options like the blackman has and in a sense has taken her frustration out on him and looks to the whiteman like he superman.

[Mustang Alley]

Originally Posted by hrku

I've dated a lot of different races and they have all been strong women. I've seen submissive black and white women and it's annoying to be with someone who seems to just say yes or blindly follow you with out giving any input or ideas. It doesn't matter about the color of your skin or their bank account. Being submissive is an innate trait to a person. In relationship I LOVE being with a strong woman rather than someone who would just let me do whatever and just "go along for the ride".

Now that's my kind of man!!! 💋

[BlkmanSweden]

Originally Posted by hrku

I've dated a lot of different races and they have all been strong women. I've seen submissive black and white women and it's annoying to be with someone who seems to just say yes or blindly follow you with out giving any input or ideas. It doesn't matter about the color of your skin or their bank account. Being submissive is an innate trait to a person. In relationship I LOVE being with a strong woman rather than someone who would just let me do whatever and just "go along for the ride".

yes i have upmost respect for those kind of women

[ThickNiggaDick]

Originally Posted by hrku

I've dated a lot of different races and they have all been strong women. I've seen submissive black and white women and it's annoying to be with someone who seems to just say yes or blindly follow you with out giving any input or ideas. It doesn't matter about the color of your skin or their bank account. Being submissive is an innate trait to a person. In relationship I LOVE being with a strong woman rather than someone who would just let me do whatever and just "go along for the ride".

I guess it all depends on how she manifests the "strong". I mean, I like a woman who understands that she can be both strong and a lady at the same time. She understands that being strong isn't about a battle of wills all the time. She's not the type who thinks it's a challenge to try to out fuck the man LOL! She stands proudly with her head held high as she waits for her man to open the door for her.

I dated this red headed white chick once, and she was telling me about how she had a flat tire one time. It was before we met. Anyway, this guy stopped to help her change the tire, and she told him she didn't need any help. Then she said she got offended when he kind of stood there for a minute to watch her and see how she was gonna do. I mean really? Come on. She was offended by that ? I wish somebody had stopped to help me the last time I had to change a tire. Got all dirty in my nice business suit and hurt my back and shit

Anyway, I ended up dumping her ass after seeing her for a little while. You see, in her never ending desire to show her strength and independence as a woman . . . she forgot to remember that to attract most men (especially "strong" men) . . . you need to be . . . a lady. She would be over at my place, and then when she would get ready to leave, I would ask her to call me when she got home so I would know that she arrived safe and sound. And her reply? "I'm a big girl. I think I can get home safe all right," (while rolling eyes).

No shit!? Of course she was a "big girl", but she was totally missing the point! When a guy asks something of that from a girl, he's telling her that he CARES something about her . . . that he LIKES her . . . and wants HER to KNOW that he wants her to be free of any harm. But in her quest to be "strong and independent", she was blind to understanding and picking up on this kind of "man talk". Maybe that's why the guy before me dumped her too . . . and announced he was gonna get engaged to be married to somebody else! Said she was devastated. Obviously didn't learn shit.

A lot of women think they understand men. But, they don't understand jack shit about men. Not at all. I got tired of her "feminism". That's the way she described herself by the way when we had falling out and I stopped calling her. She "admitted" to being a "feminist". Well, I suppose strength and feminism come in tandem. But, you don't have to be a feminist in order to possess personal strength as a woman. I don't mind a strong woman. Just as long as she remembers to . . . be a lady too . . . which means knowing how to interact with, attract, and KEEP the opposite sex in her life.

[dbiggs]

As a Black man that has dated a few White women over the years I have found them to just be easier to get along with. White women were with me through thick and thin, Black women just through the thick. I never had a WW that I considered a pushover.And they are more open minded sexually. Black women always say they are independent,but once they have sex with you then they start beggin,bitchin, and complaining. The only thing they bring to the table is a big mouth and a bunch of kids. I'm not looking to marry again,but if I do it sure as hell won't be to a Black woman. I want to live the rest of my days in relative peace!
BTW... Luv ya Mustang!!!

[newblkman22]

Originally Posted by hrku

I've dated a lot of different races and they have all been strong women. I've seen submissive black and white women and it's annoying to be with someone who seems to just say yes or blindly follow you with out giving any input or ideas. It doesn't matter about the color of your skin or their bank account. Being submissive is an innate trait to a person. In relationship I LOVE being with a strong woman rather than someone who would just let me do whatever and just "go along for the ride".

Totally agree with you there pal, I love a strong and independent woman who will speak her mind, knows what she wants, etc. Give me advice give me input and tell me what I need to hear instead of what I wanna hear.

[ThickNiggaDick]

Originally Posted by Kalflcik

I have an open mind, which has brought different types of women to my life. These have included quite a few japanese and korean women, ecuadorian, dominican, mexican, I could go on... a couple white american women, but also argentinean, swedish, polish. Although the last few I named were "white" they were all quite different culturally.

There are a lot of men out here that dont have the balls to speak about issues like this because they think that it will decrease the amount of sex they can get. Glad that dude isnt me......

A man after my own heart. Miss Alley knows I play on an international stage. And yeah, I'm glad that dude ain't me either. The whole notion of "pussy scarcity" is bullshit.

[ThickNiggaDick]

Originally Posted by dbiggs

The only thing they bring to the table is a big mouth and a bunch of kids.

That reminds me of when I used to date women who have kids (I absolutely don't anymore). Anyway, I was seeing this one with kids (white), and she was like, "We're a package deal!" And I was like (in my head), well I see the package, but where the hell is the "deal"??? LOL! She was pretty (looked like Big Booty Barbie), but just like the black women you describe, she wasn't bringing anything else to the table but a big mouth and kids. White women can be like that too.

[whtgrlangel]

I sure did get you guys stirred up didn't I? Well, even if I offended some of you, at least I brought up something that was important to each of you or else you wouldn't have responded as you did.

I certainly do not claim to be an expert on "black" but I do understand that there is a active dialogue on the subject of black men dating white more and more often that should be openly discussed and understood.

You gentlemen have brought up a lot of detail that couldn't have possibly come from a stupid girl like me. As hard as it is to swallow, I did see bits of myself in some of those derogatory descriptions of white women so now I have a better baseline and I will strive to be a much better HO...LOL

Seriously, thank you all for participating in an open and relevant discovery of contemporary black culture and thank you for at least validating that I am not completely crazy. I only opened the dialogue because I care.

[ThickNiggaDick]

Originally Posted by whtgrlangel

You gentlemen have brought up a lot of detail that couldn't have possibly come from a stupid girl like me. As hard as it is to swallow, I did see bits of myself in some of those derogatory descriptions of white women so now I have a better baseline and I will strive to be a much better HO...LOL

I wasn't simply trying to be derogatory towards white women. My central point was that all of those negative behaviors attributed to black women? Well, plenty of white women do them too. I know that from "hands-on" experience. That's all I was really trying to get at when you break it all down. Hell, I know some white women who got weaves and hair pieces/extensions too . . . girl you know that ain't yo hair! Hahahaha !!!