[jimbrowski]

Originally Posted by ThickNiggaDick

The first of your points that I quoted strikes me as the kind of thing that comes from the mouths of people who claim there's no right or wrong. It's all relative. Well, that only comes from people who just don't want to be held accountable for their own actions. "I didn't do anything wrong because there is no right or wrong!" Riiiiiiggghhhhht And as to the second quoted point of yours, I have indeed been in and around the lifestyle "for a bit", so that just strikes me as . . . with all due respect . . . pure grade bullshit! Of course, you're entitled to your opinion. And me to mine.

Oh, and something else just came to mind. If all those wives didn't look good to you and didn't do much for you, then why did you feel the need to start talking around the husband directly to the wife in the first place??? I mean, If she wasn't shit, why talk to her then? Sounds kinda THIRSTY to me. And even more than that, seems to me like it was just you getting into some kind of immature power play with the husband. Since you said you were in your 20's, then that's most probably exactly what it was. I was once in my twenties and immature too, but even then I understood that it generally wouldn't be a good idea to talk to a strange man's wife and totally ignore him while he's sitting right there, even if I could get away with it

Respect yields respect. If you give it, then it will be returned in kind. And if not, then keep stepping until you get to the next one.

I havent been on the site in months, and after reading your reponse yesterday I felt compelled to, pardon to the others that have more important things to do.
My experiences are just that; they're not my experiences according to your interpretation, lol. they don't have to line up with yours and vice versa. You seem to have a problem with reading and comprehension, so I'll give you a more detailed and simpler explanation for you and those of your ilk.
No where in my post did I state that there's no right and wrong in life. If we're adults (I can only assume you are), and posses adult size brains, and know how to actually use those brains, then obviously there's right and wrong;
I stated that there's no right and wrong in the swinging lifestyle specifcally; as you do as you can control. I'm not under anyone's control, and can't be controlled by another man and his fetish. If you're HAPPY with being a sheep and under someone else's control then that's fine for you; however I don't or can't follow anyone unless they're in business for themselves and monetarily successful. If someone can't teach me how to make money then my mind won't allow me to follow them in life.
Now, when the swinging lifestyle was explained to me when I was a teenager I envisioned beautiful women, automatic and free spirited sex; mutiple partners, etc, so when I became older I met an older white woman that was married to an older white man, whom, as I found out later, were swingers. I met this guy on one occasion, and never had anymore interaction with him afterward. Me and her would have our escapades, and she would tell me about these "gatherings", which I later found out were swinger parties. She and her husband had major issues, I think stemming from him wanting a younger female, and her wanting someone better sexually.
One day she invites me to one of the parties, in which we attended three altogether.
Now, she made these parties seem like they were the utopia of Sex and pleasure.
The problem was that when I attended these parties or "events", there weren't a lot of beautiful women! Percentage wise 50% of the women were barely average, and 45% were below average, while only 5% were above average! And as you can imagine the 5% were swarmed; it was like flies on warm shit! Not to mention, and more importantly, the majority of all of them didn't posess T&A (thighs & ass). There were women there that were body pretty, but the majority weren't.
Those parties in particular were in pa, nj, ny, & ct; they were full of older out of shape men that seemed like they held a gun to their companions head to get them there, or they were going through some marital problems and were trying to spice it up. I did get a few numbers that parlayed into sex, plus I networked with like three people, but in general they were all a fruitless.
You have to keep in mind that I come from an urban neighborhood where there are naturally beautiful (no pork and cake on their face) women on just about every block with fat asses. I thought there would be better looking women, with better bodies, that were more easy going, and more free spirited for mutal satisfaction, but I was completely wrong! It was more of a male controlled-male dominate environment; were they wanted to dictate the situations. Even when I think about it today from a comparison aspect; I had better looking females, with WAY better bodies, and much easier situations.
Plus, it seems like there was a lot of postering and uptight people at these parties as well; not mention the egos.
Now, this maroon that you defended was out of line. I wasnt trying to talk around him, even though I would've eventually done that if his companion was just sitting there and not saying anything, I was merely introducing myself because I waved to her earlier, and she waved back. I wasn't trying to sit in her lap; I wasnt trying to kiss her; I wasn't trying to grope on her; I wasn't trying to hug her; there was no aggressiveness. He had no right to put his hands on me in an attempt to push us apart; it wasnt that serious. In a different venue and at a different time I wouldv'e knocked his head off. So I did what I thought at that time was the appropriate thing to do, which was to send him packing. There were couples there that I conversed with, and there were about 4 or so women that approached me without their husbands/companions.
As for a "power struggle" there was none on my part because this guy wasnt a threat to me physically and definitely not mentally; was I cocky? yes; was I arrogant? perhaps; but there was no immaturity on my behalf.
As for his wife or companion; she didn't look good! What she did have was a better body than the most of women at that particular event. She was something that I was considering; we hadn't, and never got to that point.
Now, I dont engage in juvenile vernacular, so I had to ask my son what exactly does "thirsty" mean.
So in regards to your "thirsty" comment; I don't give chase; as a matter of fact there's a post on here that asks 'who makes the first move'; I clearly state that the woman makes the move mostly, or it's 50/50 because I don't chase.
Now for for the ili record, I genuinely adore, and respect the female anatomy; outside of Africa, and my son being born there's nothing more beautiful. I have sex strictly for recreational purposes; not for procreation; not for revenge; not out of selfishness; not out of insecurity; not out of spite; not for accomplishments, and not to satisfy my ego;
The reason I mentioned that his wife didn't look good wasnt because of thirst, it was to put an emphasis on his erratic behavior, and why it was unnecessary, and also to highlight the disposition he took in acting like he was doing me some kind of favor, which was another thing that I noticed at these events.
[pardon the digression] These guys would parade around their women like they were contestants in the miss america pageant. If they personally thought their women were the hottest thing there that's cool, but to act like they were doing someone a favor by offering their women for sex was quite maniacal. It reminds me of how americas version of beauty is horribly flawed, and how they prop up jennifer anniston like she's some kind of beauty queen when in fact she looks like mr magoo, more importantly, she doesn't have a body! Not to mention julia roberts, sasha grey, katie morgan, belle knox, etc; have you seen these womens bodies, and without makeup? YIKES! which brings to mind a woman that was at one of the events that pretty much stated that after I had sex with her husband I could have her all to myself; I had to pass; this women DID NOT have a body, nor DID she look good. So I'm supposed to disregard my manhood by fucking her husband in exchange for PUSSY??? NO THANKS!
There have been seven or so people that have contacted me for a get-together on this site, but after learning the husbands position, and learning that he would be present in the room for "so called" protection or security, I passed. My position on that is if the husband/boyfriend has to be in the room watching/lurking then that's a movie, and I need to be paid for my likeness. Also I'm not questioning the husbands or studs sexuality but that does seem MIGHTY gay to me. If you look at it beneath the surface; the man is ALLOWING you to have sex with his woman, so in effect, you're a slave, and not in control even if you do get to have sex with her.
Maybe you're into that, I'm not, nor is it a turn on. As I stated before, when a woman thinks for herself, and can tell me that she wants to fuck regardless of her situation with her companion, that's the ultimate turn on to me; a man allowing me to fuck his wife while he watches isnt. If there's no compromising on the male companions part then there's absolutely no compromising on mine.
There's women on my job currently that want to fuck me-been wanting to fuck me for years that I passed on.
So your "thirsty" comment is inaccurate and off-ramp.
I'm an adult, and I can't be controlled by some mans fetish; greater than that, why would I engage in some other mans fetish??? If that's ones means of getting pussy, thats weak; no disrespect.
I'm happy having sex with single-relationship-married women, without having to demean my manhood for another man's fetish.