~~Speaking of Validating~~
 

I agree
 

Bitches be saying they want a BBC, but then give you the run around. Then don't wanna cam or nothing bitch stop playin. We know you fraud, might be a man posing lol.

yeah and.......
 

Validation would be great... Consider these things as well: It would be nice if peeps would return emails too. If you are here ONLY to look or flirt SAY SO!!! If you actually do meet and only play locally, SAY SO. Oh and if you a white man and your gay, SAY SO.

Lastly, if you are a bbw, dont just post head shots. Its deceptive. I hate having to search a pic for fat fingers or hands to determine what the rest of the body might look like.

I agree snce i have been on this site i have meet 1 real person and have had several ladies that are from my city speak on what they are and what they want but then they dont respond back. If a person doesnt want to hook up say so and if your not real say so. I am here to meet and get things done so lets see what happens when we get real.

No doubt Mustang.... But to the dudes here, you gotta understand that most of threads and posts about wanting bbc aren't even women. Notice when they start a thread and get all of these responses their asses are MIA? That's why I'm telling dudes to stop acting like thirsty animals and drooling over these "I want a bbc" threads. Their nothing more then men

The Real Deal
 

Thanks TMV.

Hmmm still no comments from couples/women. SMH.

i agree with you 100 %

good luck to every real person on here,,weve had enough of this site,,we are going back to picking up black bulls in bars and club,,and even grocery stores,,had a alot of luck doing that before all this web stuff started,,,,

I would welcome that!
 

It's funny... I've been on this site for what seems like forever, thinking at some point I would make a friend and have some real life fun. But has never happened. I get more interest of meeting up from sites NOT dedicated to anything interracial; Which I find hilarious.

It's the one thing that makes NOT join this site. It's like anything, I think people are willing to pay for something of perceived value. I know that there are lot of people here to fantasize, which is fine. But I think that there should some type of validation or requirements for joining.

To me the goal should be to make friends with the very same interest possibly.

well one of the biggest problems with this site is that the people that really would meet usually live to dam far away from each other,,weve talked to many people on here over the years and i know we would meet with them and they would meet with us but its just to far to travel 300 to 2000 miles to meet,,theres even some from europe we would love to meet,,just cant do it,,,to far,,we work for as living,,,but we still love this site and we hope to meet the right bull or bulls some time soon who we can play with on a regular basis that live close to us..good luck everyone,,any thing we can do to help any body feel free to contact us,,,becky and rob rose

That sucks becky. I agree there are a lot of fake couples and single guys on this site.
I imagine its hard to find a truly single guy on here that doesn't have a wife or girlfriend. They cancel because there plans of cheating fall through. I agree a lot of people that I would meet on here live far away. The last thing I want to do is hit the road trying to meet a women and get stood up. I consider myself lucky that I live in Vegas. Couples that like to play from this website are in town all the time. I know it sounds anal but making a picture for person your interested in or video chatting prior is the key to not being disappointed when you meet face to face. Shoot all the pictures I post in my gallery are real but they gotta have the good angles of me or the women I am playing with. Happy hunting

I have met about 6 couples from this site ranging from different body types and ages. I am just lucky I live in Vegas the 2nd most popular tourist spot after NYC. Couples from this site are always in town.

I totally agree that there are fake guys here but I'm willing to bet 8 out of 10 guys who say they are BLACK are indeed real. The way i see it is that the real blk men are the potential victims here. It's like open season on all the real blk men.

I'm sorry that you were stood up so many times. My advice to you is get their asses on cam. If they want what you have bad enough then they will turn their cam on. Even a verified pic is better than nothing but to the untrained eye even those can be faked. Once again cam is the best way to go. Don't accept no bullshit lies like oh it's broke or my dog ate it. Oh and when you get them on cam, direct them to hold up a certain amount of fingers or stick out their tongue. Lol the reason I say this is because some fakes will actually play a video and you may think your looking at that guy but your actually still being lied too.

Start dealing with different type of men!!! Stop being so thirsty, that makes it really easy for the fakes to screw with you.

Knocking on wood. I haven't ever been stood up. Not saying it's wont ever happen but chances are slim because I don't deal with fake BS, I deal with real men!! I'm speaking of men who respect me and my time. The real deal men.

Really sorry that you had those bad experiences but take what you learned and move on. 💋

Oh and SMOOCHES for posting. 😊

well it happens,,,but we have a date set up for next saturday,,the 15 of december,,,hes black,,hes dom,,,we met him 2 yrs ago,,right before he moved to california,,but he just moved back to pittsburgh,,lost the job he took out there,,called his old boss back here and got rehired,,so he called us,,,and wanted to know if we need his services,,,,we said YES,,so hope fully we are going to get what we deserve,,hes going to take control of us and hopefullly like he told us on the phone we are going to get more than we bargined for,,,hope fully hes right,,,cant wait for saturday,,,,,any one who wants to know how it goes,,check our posts,,,xoxo,,becky and rob

Mustang, our worry is that we need to be discreet. I do understand getting tired of the fakes. I notice that most of the responses here gripe about white men disguising themselves as women, but there are tons of black men getting on here disguised as white men as well, trying to make white men look bad. There are a bunch that try to make black men look bad and racist as hell on here when I know that the ones we are friends with are not like that at all. They dont go around talking about superiority or breeding or any of that stuff. They just enjoy sex like the rest of us. We have had many respond and my wife has enjoyed meeting up with some of them. Again, there was no jerky attitudes at all.

With all this said, anyone can steal pics and post them as themselves. I dont know if there is a true way to weed the fake white and black men out. Believe me. I wish there were. I get sick of seeing it all.

Oh, and I forgot to add, if you are on web cam, can they not record you? We wouldnt care to do that, but thats putting alot of trust in someone you just met. We just really have to be discrete.

Shug, you said a mouth ful!!! Way too many fakes on site now.. That's why I suggested a validated members only section. If their not verified they can stand outside and kick rocks!!!

Speaking of Validating
 

First and foremost we are a real couple....and be advised that its the husband who is writing on this occasion.

Can I say we fully respect all comments made on this matter, but we would very much like to put our view across, we joined this site sometime ago, (well I did and then got my wife interested), and from the outset we have made it plain that we are real virgins to the real deal of interracial sex.

I like a lot of hubbies say they wouldnt mind seeing there wives being done by a black guy, and to perfectly honest my wife loves the thought of it to the extent that when we have sex its like that 99% of the time play acting that role, however it truly remains a fantasy, as she would not do this for real.

Our pictures are also for real but clearly these are without head shots, as like others have said we value our anonymity, its the www and we cannot risk exposing our real ID thats just a fact.

At the outset we did not want to portray a false impression which is reflected in my wifes comments on our profile and we have had many contacts from this site and enjoyed some of the very sexy emails and what they would like to do to her, but when asked about doing the real thing (whether these are genuine offers or not) we decline respectivlyc reffering them to our profile that its fantasy only.

We do not want to waste anybodys time, hence the comments on the profile page.

Considering our view point in mind should that exclude us from this site, if we choose not to be validated?

We think no,t as we have been open and honest from the outset, however those that truly live this lifestyle may have a different view on that matter which they are completly entiltled too and we respect.

There are of course some people on here that are not what they seem, and they may have very genuine reasons for that, or not...we however enjoy the site and it provides us lots of fantasy fun whether thats me her or both of us checking out the pics of bbc's and interacial sex, forums, blogs and stories that are posted.

Regards & Respect to All

vmclbc (couple)

Mustang I love your posts and respect you, but I cant agree. Its just too important to us to not take chances on the web. But I fully understand where you are coming from. The white and black men that are posers on the site get on my nerves extremely bad. We have met some very nice guys on here my wife has thoroughly enjoyed chatting and being with. Maybe a validation method without pics or cam? I dont know the answer.

oy vey
 

Hubby (slydog) comment:

Easily recorded, and streamed too. Yes, it matters, any corroborating breadcrumb in a trail has evidentiary value.

Trust ain't the issue, probative material evidence compromising discretion and leading to real life exposure is. As an example, one might trust another, but that trust does not extend to the other's spouse (or others you were unaware of) and her/their team of attorneys armed with the rules of Discovery, subpoenas, and/or court ordered eDiscovery, and etc. on a moral turpitude character assassination mission in a marital or custody case.

Any couple would certainly be more than uncomfortable in a 7 hour (allowed by rules) video deposition (with SDT - subpoena duces tecum ordering surrender of copies of all communications, emails, voice mails, etc., etc.) if they were inadvertently caught in the middle of another’s drama. In a deposition, counsel for the Plaintiff can ask you anything they want, your whole life history, and you have to answer or be held in contempt. It is worse than open court where the Judge is a referee and determines admissibility, etc. There is no referee in deposition and it is all public record. I’m certain nobody here would be comfortable on the stand in open court discussing activities related to participation in this site or another’s “moral turpitude” either.

Control risk, or risk control.

I/We will say no more in this thread.

Oh please...
 

Wow... I understand the need to protect one's privacy and all of that, but I can't help but wonder about the people who take that to the extreme.

Sure, you're taking a chance by putting too much out there online... but look where you all are -- online. This isn't an in-person, meet-n-greet, where you can exchange ID's and STD test results in realtime. These digital checks (photos, etc) are pretty much all we have to go on initially.

The question I'm always thinking when I hear/read that people are unwilling to provide proof of who they are is; what else are they not saying? Even if they turn out to be "real", what else might they be holding back, presumably for the sake of their own privacy? Could those be things that I really should know before I commit to meeting strangers, in some strange place, in order to do (possibly) strange things?

You see, what some of you don't seem to get is that there actually needs to be at least the appearance of trust for all of this to actually end up with everybody hooking up... Hell, even an escort won't return your call if your number is blocked. Are you going to give the black men here at least that much consideration? Or should we just fly completely blind all of the time?

One last thought... If the idea of anyone finding out about your black cock fetish is so earth shatteringly, god awful scary for you, maybe it's just not the lifestyle for you.

Real talk!!!
 

Thats ridiculous caliblk. There are tons of people, probably a majority, enjoying fetishes and lifestyles that they dont allow the public to know about. And they are having a wonderful time. With my wife and I, if someone is interested we give our cell numbers and exchange regular face pics that no one on earth could look at and say "oh they are on a swinger site." We have done this long enoigh to know how to let the other person know we are real. If you post a pic on here someone could pull the site up and show others you are on it.

Hell, my wife had an account on this site WITH pics and a racist black guy got in here, who I still tell her was a juvenile, and at first was extremely sexist towards her and then he accused her of being a man. He is lucky I have no idea where he is. But that was done even with pics posted. So we decided to just let me be on here and I just think its best we continue meeting people the way we were. Again, my wife, by letting the guys know she was real the way we handle it, has now been chatting and been with some very nice guys from the site.

To be honest we are on other swinger sites and this is not a problem on them. This is the only site where white and black guys are pretending to be someone they are not.

But to respond to caliblk honestly, the lifextyle suits us fine. We love it. We just dont advertise our pics on sites. Its just our preference and it has worked fine for us. Even if people posted pics it doesnt prove its really them. Im like all of you sick of black and white guy fakes, but I dont see any real way to stop them. Some posts could be blocked by the admins of the site. That might help.

<begin rant>
 

I think I understand where you're coming from Lovingsex2012, and it does sound like you're willing to share, once a connection starts to take shape. You don't sound like the "extreme" case I was talking about... We've all seen those, and it doesn't matter if they have a profile pic or not. These are the people with no city in their profile, much less even a state. They throw up a "love-to-meet" posting and don't even bother to tell anyone where they're from.

The fake white guys who like to slither around this place destroy the experience for everyone. They seem to get off on what they do, but it's like pissing in your own beer -- at the end of the day it doesn't make any sense, and just drives all us black men (that they seem so hot for) away.

So we ask for pics -- as some sort of weak, useless proof that the person on the other end of the Internet connection is who they say they are. Not to out you to your friends and fellow PTA members, but to have at least a little assurance that its not another runaround... But it usually is. And the most you can usually hope for is a hot picture that you haven't already seen someone else pass off as theirs on some another site.

This lifestyle is mine -- I've been in it since grade school... But the associated websites sometimes almost kill it for me.<end rant>

I fully understand. For some reason this site just attracts fake black and white men. Im not sure why. It does get old. Its not just fake white men though. Dont be fooled. Its dumbasses in both races. I wish they would leave the site all together.

The biggest thing with us is we just need to be discrete. We enjoy this and it works for us and we have been doing this successfully for a good while. There are probably more people desiring to be discrete than not. In any lifestyle. I understand the aggravation against the fake black and white guys on here, I really do, but I think they would be able to get in here no matter what.

we will do this at some point, but honestly...such a low priority given all the other stuff we got goin... I mean we only get on here for like 15 minutes at a time like once a week...

total agrement
 

Mustang,

We agree. WE sent out to about 15 couples and single females a e-mail to see if we could get 3 or 4 couples/females to form a small circle to get together about every 6 weeks for a hotel IR party here in the DC area. NOT 1 person responded.

We are swingers, we enjoy swapping. She is bi, and likes to play with a female while others watch. She has given head to a black male, nothing more. She is ready to try.

So we know how you feel. All we want is for 2 or 3 couples/females that we can enjoy regualr meet and greets with.

My wife and I would be interested in visiting a non sausage majority party or a meet in greet, but privacy is major. There is no How to book so to speak so caution takes priority.

Ok, I get that privacy is important to you (and many of the rest of us as well), but I will never understand why you can't even put your home state in your profile... Ok fine, maybe you can convince me that you can't list your city -- especially if it's a very small town, whatever. But not even having your state listed is a big fat red flag to many of us. That seems [to me] to go WAY beyond simple privacy concerns.

fakers
 

Yeah we been trying to hook up my girl and everytime we offer a date they all of a sudden have somthing come up,WTF?

Couple
 

We are a real couple. Not as active as we used to be, but still around. We don't have a "verified" pic on our profile, however. Guess we'll have to work on that....

Dale (male half)

Same here, never knew about the "verified" profile requirement.

We are as well a couple, and we are new to the swinging lifestyle. We are serious, and therefore we have created a serious enough profile, if a verification is needed, we would definitely do so.

hmmmmmmmm
 

I think I'm real.. *touching myself*.... hmmmmmm