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I;m still busy with ups and downs in case of a busy job. Nevertheless I'll keep you posted. :)
@Hep Best wishes and hopefully she will recover soon! |
Tonight I tried the new method, stroking her while she is in sleep. I stroked her in sleep. Keep you posted about the progress :)
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Hope you started with 'Mesmer' stroking (thanks for the term mike) from a awakened state down to subcon SquirtKing. Just thought I'd better throw that in there and make sure. Thnx Squirt King and all others for the kind wishes. We might have seen a ray of light in the distance with some improvements but been here before so just holding my breath and keeping my fingers crossed. |
Hopefully the small lightpoints will be bigger soon :)
Can you please explain what you mean with "Mesmer" stroking? I couldn't find a good translation of that word. Thanks in advance. |
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Thanks Hep! I didn't know you refered to the post on previous page otherwise I read that of course.
I stroked her in sleep that night. Tot test if she was in sleep, I whispered: "I love you". As I get no response and her breathing was "deeper" I assumed she was in sleep. While stroking I whisperd: "[name] when I say the word [trigger word] you want to fuck a BBC" I stroked her in the rythm of her breathing. Later I whispered: "[name] from now on, you will dream and fantasise; day in day out, in every dream, about the feeling of a BBC inside you". Yesterday she was indeed horny. She wanted me to use the BBC dildo inside her :) She was fucking while a nice interracial vid was running on my computer. I told her to watch while I was using the dildo. She was as hot as hell :) |
It's not all together method critical but Mesmer used this stroking effect on conscious patients and drawing them down into the hypnotic state - this was what I was bringing back to your attention with the 'Mesmer Stroking'. That it was done as I have done it from the state of consciousness. I only wish to make this known so that people in general realise that it's probably preferable BUT only on account of the scenario where she has gone to sleep and the touching in effect has begin awakening her and realising the dialogue that is being suggested. I don't mean to suggest that you did anything wrong SquirtKing because you created the desired effect subconsciously / unconsciously it's just a warning to the inexperienced Loving Whisperer. I have used this also once she was asleep and it does have the same effect because you are drawing the person to a more attentive state within what we call sleep which is what we are after and which is what is so similar to the hypnotic state of unconscious / subconscious suggestibility.
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Thanks. If I understand correct (my language is Dutch and this is a bit technical English) I'm not doing wrong? As I understand correct, stroking is a way to get more in touch with the subconscious mind?
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This is my first time reading the stuff in this thread. I thoroughly enjoyed it and wish i would
have known about this a long time ago. I have tried to suggest my wife taking another man several times, but she just clams up and won't talk about it. Says she couldn't do it. We did swap with a couple a long time ago not long after we were married and she says she didn't enjoy it and we lost them as friends. I never suggested black men because she won't even consider another "man" she did dance with some blak men when we were in new orleans a few years ago and it was rather erotic slow dancing. The black man had his hand on her ass for a while and they were grinding pretty good and i really enjoyed it. I was too stupid at the time to carry things further and again didn't pursue it any more. She enjoys sex even though we are older but i recently had surgery and cannot get an erection any more. She sleeps very lightly and wakes up very easily. I sure would love to see her take a lover even if he isn't black, but i think her being with a black man would be so erotic and intense. Thanks for listening....i guess i'll just have to keep on fantasizing. |
Probably. Love Whisper sounds easier than it is. As I got a very busy job, and do some free work after work I work around 60 hours a week. I am happy when I can take a sleep. But that's the issue; when she's in sleep I got to work on this and start to whisper.
I'm convinced I got the right approach and need to work more and harder to this. But patience and care is very important! |
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Experience on this has shown me that to keep it broad across the page for the many readers of the world wide web that I need to interject a little caveat here and there for the general user - I know it sounded personal and it wasn't intended quite so personal - this is where I have to grasp from the personal to the impersonal so that I don't get people jumping down my throat saying "YOU DIDN'T SAY...." - What I'm giving here is what is the established and on this we depart from tried and tested on the many as this is something I have only tried myself in different forms from doing this from awake state to stimulated unconsciousness and from sleep to stimulated unconscious - both of which have worked for me - and thats the point - this is where as I said with original reference to 'Mesmer Stroking' the warning that it is untested though worked for me! Remember these methods are all rule of thumb and what works for some will not work for all because as we can see from SILVERFOX the issue of light sleep which I now need to come back onto with the closing reply to you. |
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Fuck yeah the only thing that can make the difference to being able to use this set of methods is your wife starting to take sleeping tablets to overcome light sleeping - may be in conjunction with you snoring! Does she show concern herself by what is light sleeping - does she find it a issue - does she find herself fully rested. Can it be suggested to her that she doesn't look or act right because of noticing she doesn't seem to be getting enough or deep enough sleep. Its interesting you know that when one points out being tired or someone else looking tired that invariably a person begins feeling a certain level of tiredness in response - think about how often a person yawns in response to someone else yawning near to them or even in passing on the street. What jobs does she do during the day? Is there anti-depressants involved that may effect her general sleep patterns? Is there anything else she takes that may create issues in a similar way? You can see i'm searching for as much information that can help you and others here. |
Thanks Hep! You are very clear. Keep you posted ;)
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Great to see the thread moving again.
Made a lot of progress towards her accepting me eating her and his combined juice from her pussy and licking cum off his dick and shes suggesting it to me like its her idea and getting off on it in fantasy though haven't yet worked it into her meetings with one of several Mr Black Fantastics. Its good to think things might be getting a little better for you and your Wife Hep. My fingers are crossed for you. Also been building in 2 extra things you suggested to me to make things more safe at my advanced stage. SquirtKing heres hoping things progress for you too. Slvrfox be careful about using this method with a Wife that is a lite sleeper. It may be counterproductive for you. |
Tonight I aborted my plans for a LW session as I wasn't sure she was in sleep. I found a solution to prevent I'm too tired. I will drink a big glass cola with a lot of cafeïne :) It worked once so I will try if this helps for all nights :)
Hep & Mike: thank you both for your reply and support :) |
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Do you think it's wrong to fantasize about her being with other men even if she won't and is it okay to show her relatively conservative pictures to men i don't know? Furthermore, is it so wrong for me to want to see her taken completely by a mature black man to give her passion she has not had and very much deserves? |
I think it is something natural. As it is a taboo we think it is wrong but I'm sure it isn't. Some people like collecting scalemodels, some people like us like sharing our wifes with BBC's. I stopped thinking it is bad. Even my gf knows my fantasy and is okay with that. Now the real deal :)
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Previous night my girlfriend woke up and told me I was talking. I did like I didn't know what she was saying. This morning she didn't ask me about it so I think she doesn't know anything about it.
I want to hurry up because the latest session was Friday on Saturdaynight. |
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BUT regarding your quote I need some time to give you a adequate and worthy response which I am lacking right now due to the holiday. |
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Thanks Hep! I always do but probably I started too fast with the real session.
Hopefully your gf/ wife is still recovering. |
Damn, we both got the flu last 2 weeks. :mad: So I will have to start all over again :confused:
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Patience. Perhaps your work won't all have faded.
Also, any snoring may help you know she's asleep. |
Instant update; I'm recovering from a frontal sinus infection. As soon I'm better I will restart again :(
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Hi, SquirtKing, look although there is a lessening of effect and build up with the not having done it for a while you'll find that it will become easier to restoke that fire inside her as her levels of desire have still hightened to some degree. I think that anything over a month of inactivity will mean almost a total restart BUT the seeds that have been placed and her asked to think about as she 'sleeps' will still generally be bouncing around her mind over time and it is more easily rekindled.
For instance I haven't done any LW on my Wife for months and months because of what happened to her back and yet even now just this evening she got it in her head to send me a joke text with big black men and cuckolding as the theme. This is from a woman that would never ever have come out with this kind of thing off the top of her head without it having been emphasised by me using LW - and those LW sessions have stop now for a considerable time. |
Thanks. I will restart the engines of LW. Hopefully I will get the right approach soon. Thanks for your advice. Hopefully your wife will recover soon!
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Good luck Squirty.
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It's still going!
Just read a email from Hephaestus that this thread is going well at cuckoldplace only problem is I have no means of going there as I don't have a account. So anyway unless this one becomes active again I guess I'm signing off. Good thing is that wife is very definitely into black men now and we have had a good number of successful meets with some great and well hung dominant black men. I will look to increase her capacity and introduce some bisex angles for her to think about because I'd love to get some multiple gang banging going.
C u all later and hope you all get the things you want to see using loving whispers. |
Got a message too. I will go to that forum soon.
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I went to that forum. Unfortunately you have to subscripe. Because I already subscribed here I don't want to pay for two sites in a time.
I will post here my progress. For who wants to read them; thank you. @Hep & Mike Appologies. Hope to speak to you later! |
very very very interesting . i wonder if somehow subliminal messages could be inserted into music?
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You don't have to pay for cuckoldplace. It's free.
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not pay
How do you sign up there without paying because every time I try to register it comes up with billing info as part of registering?
Help guys please I'd really like it to carry on there just have no idea how to oversome this! |
Send you a message yesterday.
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I'd love to hear more aboiut the thread there and how to get to it. Mostly out of idle curiosity for me.
I'm glad to see some action here again. |
Bumping this back up.
Hoping to hear from someone on this again. |
Hello
I'm still checkin this thread eventhough I don't respond a lot. Still fantasize and wish there would be some way that my wife would take another man......but especially a mature black man. The clips that i have watched are not even comparable to a white man. Why? I think black men have a mission to be with a white woman and if it is a married white woman, it is even more enjoyable. What do you think?
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Can I do this to get my wife to stop inviting the in-laws over to our house??
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Update
My wife can't wait until Friday 2/15/13 she has a date at our house and in her words he's going to fuck me with his big black cock. Two weeks ago we met him for dinner just to see:p if we click. Three hours later we left and they got in the backseat of our car where she rubbed his cock for two hours while he explored her breasts and stroked her.
The subconscious whispering didn't make her attracted to black men she was but it did make her want them and to be a slut for them. |
At this moment I didn't LW for a long time. I noticed she doesn't want BBC dildo at this moment anymore. A few months ago when I did a lot of LW my gf wanted almost always the BBC dildo.
I hope I can restart the LW soon again. |
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