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Can't believe this thread just died considering the success that I've personally achieved using this set of methods.

I'm trying to contact Hephaestus at the moment and see if I can get the update and then leave it here for people.

Just so everyone knows my wife has now gone black and she really enjoyed it! I'm making the scenarios even more slutty and wanton and feeding her the whispers at night.

I appreciate you are posting some comment here! Thanks. I got a very extremely bussy year at work so very very tired when I come home. So I failed in LW till now. I hope I can pick it up soon!

Stick with it when you can Squirtking its worth the tiredness but I did find I have conditioned myself to waking a hour before her and I only ever did the whispers with her on her going to sleep and whispering until I found myself asleep. Sometimes I had back ground of television on and other times not.
I found the points where she was definitely asleep before I started and where she came more awake I murmured my voice to the point of incomprehension so that she has never picked up what my whispers have been.
She truly believes she has made these choices and finding with my backing a safe and happy environment to enjoy her pure pleasure with black men!
Now my intentions are widening out this new reality for us both to enjoy.

An interesting topic and I thank all that have posted here - please continue. Can this bedone to encourge your GF / wife to be black bred?

The simple answer would be yes. Just make sure that it is what u want . Can YOU tell your friends and family that that is what you want?
If so proceed,but would also advise anyone to let her know you love her everyday

Thanks MikeWhitey! I hope I can start again soon!

Like Snuggums I see no reason why not. I have introduced IR desires and concepts that she had no initial conscious interest in and now shes enjoying the pleasure of black men.

This could be used in so many different ways and whilst our hangup is on IR and our white wives with black men this could be used by any guys for any reason and of course also women could use this on us too for any fantasy desire to reality.

But it takes time to do this though I see no reason why a woman couldn't be convinced on breeding or to enjoy black cock skin on pussy feel above all else. To be told that she can only enjoy sex properly when she honours a black man properly by taking his bare cock and honours his manhood by receiving his cum deep in her unprotected pussy and without the pill as protection against egg production.

It seems to me that by introducing the whispers on her being with black men, being used by black men, enjoying being dominated by black men has put her unconscious in a state of informing her consciousness of these desires and through this her conscious mind has naturally accommodated her now unconscious desires by tracking back and using her womanly mix of logic and emotion that has justified consciously why she needs black men for her lovers.

Of course I have added to whispers by saying that white guys cocks just don't do anything for her and that I am here to enable, support and help her gain copious orgasms with big black dominant men and prepare her with my tongue and clean her after.

All these things she has then mentioned back to me in discussing what she wanted out of this entire experience.

Squirt King I still believe in this as a supportive thread even if Hep seems to have given up on us mere mortals! I have emailed him asking if he can give the extra thoughts here or allow me the information for adding here... awaiting his esteemed reply, humbly...

Update of my side.

Tonight I started again... I changed the sentence a little bit. It is now a few words shorter.

I whispered for approx 10 minutes with short breaks to hear if she was still in sleep; so I repeated the sentence for I think 30 times...

I did this when she was just in sleep, I think after the first half hour when she slept.

Do I have the right approach?

No doubt in my mind this will have the effect if you can keep it up.
I used all the stuff here that we all laid out like getting her to constantly think and imagine black men to look at black men on TV with a arousing interest. For her to want to play with her clit and pussy when she sees black men on TV and in the street. To want to constantly fantasize about black men.
I think I remember Hep saying to tell her that her pussy aches to be filled with big black cock and for her clit to tingle whenever she sees black men and for her to want to play with herself and imagine being seduced and fucked by big black men

No doubt in my mind this will have the effect if you can keep it up.
I used all the stuff here that we all laid out like getting her to constantly think and imagine black men to look at black men on TV with a arousing interest. For her to want to play with her clit and pussy when she sees black men on TV and in the street. To want to constantly fantasize about black men.
I think I remember Hep saying to tell her that her pussy aches to be filled with big black cock and for her clit to tingle whenever she sees black men and for her to want to play with herself and imagine being seduced and fucked by big black men

Glad to see there's still some life to this thread. The updates are appreciated.

Can anyone give instruction on how to get the original PDF with the details of this technique? I can't seem to find it.

@Mike
I understood in the pdf that you need to use the triggerword on a day after a while to see what happens. If you used that word and you noticed her sub concious mind is triggered, you can talk dirty things. Did I understand correct?

Its listed right at the start of the thread and it can't be relinked on this post because it seems your only allowed one link, and then only if your really lucky.
It was one of the reasons Hep left, though I've since found out that his wife had severe back problems that had seriously curtailed their lifestyle.

That trigger word it seems doesn't even have to be a word, if you think about it, the very use of getting the wife to react to seeing black men on TV or in the flesh is a very powerful thing.

I think that as you use a trigger word you allow her to keep building her own concious realization of what she is beginning thinking and responding to those thoughts on her own terms, without you necessarily beginning dirty talk at the very start. I think a gradual easing in period is best but then building to the point that you start noticing a particular aroused state and jokingly pointing out something in the IR diaspora.
So yeah I'd ease in real slow and subtle without necessarily driving her towards dirty talk straight off but get her to self realize what it is her unconcious is driving her towards.

I did have a conversation with Hep where he suggested the use of buildingfurther triggers and one was aimed towards a particular night spot for me and the wife to go dancing and 'run into' black men, Which I successfully achieved! But that was like months into the training. I kept dropping it in and invited her to particularly notice this club and give her the overwhelming feeling of fun and eroticism going there and wanting to dance with a black guy. Mind you I drove her past the bloody place about 6 times on different ocasions.
Nothing obssessive there I guess...

Thank you Mike. For some reason earlier that url was not working but I got it now.
Looks like I got some reading to do.

Subconscious is only one word.:D

Thanks Mike. Last night I did the second session this week. The previous session was 2 nights ago.

I started after the sleep-check with the short sentence "womans name, when I say [triggerword] you want to have sex with a bbc"

I repeated this a few times. Later I told her to dream that night about getting fucked by BBC's. I told her to get horny as hell.

At the end I repeated again the sentence.

Here breathing was getting heavier so I suspected I got the right approach :)

Lol yes sounds like it :)

I did 2 sessions this week; the night from monday on tuesday and the night wednesday on thursday.

Last night I was too tired, tomorrow I have to wake up early in the morning. So I am planning the next session on next night. This will be the thirth within one week time.

Its good Squirtking and remember that you can take nights off over 3 or more days and still get her back into the rhythm of dreaming and fantasizing about black men!

Remember to keep going at a pace that keeps you in the right shape to shape her

I've been watching this for some time now, and I'm very happy to see it moving again.

I agree lucygirly it's way too good to let it drop.
Made me wonder curious to now if you've made any use of this same set of methods in some meaningful way for your needs? Because it offers so many possibilities for so many people in so many different ways.

Thanks. I'm almost sure I already notice progress. This morning I started a conversation about sex while I was stroking here body. I used the triggerword.

I said... you want to feel that BBC inside your pussy. Usually you she would put my hands of her and would have said: you're crazy.
I excused myself but she said: probably I have to try more things.

So I said: a bbc? She: "no"... She said it on a way that I thought "you don't dare to say yes but it is yes or almost yes".

mmm nice I feel your excitement and expectation building as I can just imagine whats really going on in her mind and the thoughts and images shes beginning playing with!

Now is the time to move on! But I know I have to be carefull. If I can keep this frequency of LW sessions for 1 month, I think there will be made huge steps!

Looking forward for you experiencing these successes knowing the changes that are possible ahead!

Last night I had a session of almost 30 minutes. It was within a half hour after she was sleeping.

I mixed the whispers up with some talk like: you will dream the rest of the night about BBC....

@Mike
Do you received already more info of Hep about the faster method he was talking about?

Hello all, new to the forum. Quick question that I am sure that has been already asked and answered so bear with me. The link on the first page describing the subconscious instructions on how to use this on my GF does not work. Meaning when I clicked on it, nothing happened. Is there a new or different link that I can click on so that I can start trying to use this on my GF? Also, what page would it be located on? Thank you in advance to all. joho

Copy and paste address from first page of this thread of Heps first post into your browser address bar.

It was originally highlighted and I know it's one of the reasons Hep stopped updating here because the limited linking that's allowed! Considering the file is this site specific and large PDFs can't be left on the site itself.

I've sent a number of emails and IMs via yahoo to Heps account there and had nothing back. I know he was progressively becoming disillusioned with the cuck and wannabe scene and because if his wifes injury had further deepend his troubles as well as what he saw as the uninterested approach of the running of this site with limitations of linking mentioned in my above post.
Anyway back to your question which is as yet no I haven't had contact. A mutual friend has given me another email address suggesting I try that as she has chatted recently with him. So I'm currently waiting since yesterday for a response from Hep with any hopeful update or link to wherever he might have left this enhancement. As soon as I know I'll let you guys know.

Okay, so as I understand right, Hep got some serious troubles with his wife? :( Never mind... give him time to resolve these problems, I don't want to rush. I will still do what I can and do as many sessions as possible in a week. At this moment it is approx 2 times a week. Not much but it is a start. It is also a training for me to do this so I can speed up the frequency of the sessions per week.

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I got the headsup from Mike and by a online goodhearted slutty lady friend about the continued interest here so I'm calling back - infrequently I add as I'm not going to get weighed down. My yahoo email functions but is chock a block with wannabes asking for help!

Unfortunately my Wife had her back injured for her by some total dumbass which has destroyed all our potential pursuing big black guys for her. Its put a giant hole in our lives at the moment and for the next few years I guess.

The added extra enhancement is really simple (it has been previously vaguely alluded to by me but not put in its proper context) and tracking backwards to hypnosis takes its inspiration from the very earliest mesmerism. Hypnosis distanced itself from mesmerism on the basis of Mesmers obsession with what he termed 'animal magnetism' which was his theory of the induced trance in humans.

With Mesmer the trance state was induced by continually touching and stroking the 'patient' / stage participant to the point that they 'went off'.

Now for a caveat here - **After continually stroking her back at bed time make sure your wife / gf is definitely drifting off** before starting to begin the normal loving whispers but at the same time continuing stroking. Make up and down stroking in time to saying "Big black cock" is a good way to begin the whispers.

Yep its thats simple. BUT DO MAKE SURE YOUR PARTNER ENJOYS BEING STROKED as they go off to 'sleep'. AND DO MAKE SURE you have smooth enough hands! unless doing it over the top of night wear in which case make sure her nightie doesn't cause snagging on your hand.

The point with this methods is that by continually keeping moving contact and in such a rhythmic way helps induce that subconscious state where those areas of the brain that remain aware and receptive to suggestion remain active and ready for OUR needs.


OK now thats off my chest and out the way I've also got some ideas for introducing the Very conservative and or may be the women who have had some experiences that have framed black men negatively.

I'll save these ideas, and these are ideas which are UNTESTED theoretical in the LW field for a near future continuation.

Haven't had a chance to setup anything seperate from here as yet and I am in two minds about continuing my knowledge transference in general.

Really like it if people started taking on and evolving these concepts and adding them here or there and informing me where they link to in case they want my 10 cents worth!

^Nice to have you stop by Hep.

First I'ld like to wish your wife a full and speedy recovery. Hopefully this was a car accident or some such thing rather than an assault. Physical injuries recover better than mental injury most of the time.

I downloaded the original PDF, or at least part of it, is it only the 43 pages? I find it very intriguing but have not yet attempted any of it. For me there are some ethical considerations and other concerns that keep me from commiting to it. Nonetheless it is facinating to read about the success and failures some have had. Thanks for the added advice and good luck.

^^ you have to be sure you want it otherwise you better can't start with LW.

I got a very busy half year so I didn't make any progress untill I started again this month. And immediately I got progress. The day after she is most time more horny than usual.

I am aware that 2 times a week isn't much. I will try to speed up with at least 3 times a week.

@hep
Hopefully your wife will recover fast!

Hallo Hep. Good to see you here even if its in short bursts.
Thanks for the extra methods I can certainly do more with making use of the stroking effect. As there's plenty more I want to achieve beyond my currently cuckolded state.

SquirtKing, I think you know what you need to do to making it work. Just remember that nothing is set in stone and everything can be moved around to accommodate your life, work etc. With your longterm goal in mind you must accommodate your energy levels in relation to your normal pre-LW life so that you can go at LW over a longer period to make those changes.

Wish I could be confident about her recovery BUT I know too much about the mechanics of her injury and no wasn't in car accident or assault and can't really give that information away in any specifics.

Irf4wife - yes its 43 pages

Thanks again Hep and sorry to hear of a less than confident prognosis. Absolutely no specifics required just best wishes to you and your wife.

The Mesmer Stroking looks to be having added extra effect as she's telling me she wants me to eat her cream filled cunt. Never thought I'd hear that from her dainty sweet mouth! Of course it may be we have just reached far enough along the cuckolding path that these things are occurring naturally and for all I know have been suggested by Mr Black Fantastic. But Im building in some licking their combined juice off his cock into her desire suggesting its a good way to humiliate me and keep me in my place for her to continue enjoying big black cock. I've been dropping in a load of humiliation suggestion for her and encouraging her black lover / s to humiliate and degrade me as she is degraded herself by her dominant black lovers.