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Everybody can make mistakes. So I don't see any problems over there. Maybe tonight I will start again as I am sure she has a busy day at work today.
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Hey Guys,
It's been a while since I posted but this is a busy time of the year for me. It would seem that I have ruffled some feathers with some of my posts so let me address that first. I have extended my thanks for these procedures before but let me do that again just to verify to some and to satisfy others. Thanks a bunch for this stuff Hep. It works! I am a little confused though on why I was attacked and accused of hijacking the idea and claiming it or something like that. Let me assure you I have not and would never do such a thing. I am just glad to have found it. Any posts that I have made has been to offer any help that I could to the others that are putting this info to use for themselves and their girls. They have consisted of my own personal accomplishments along with my opinions on it but they all came from Heps original ideas and his work, not mine. Again thanks so much for sharing these ideas with us. I can most certainly see tnblackstallions point on being very careful with this and I sure hated to hear about the misfortune that he has endured. I will post again soon as I can on my progress but must run for now. |
Clearing the air
Hi dwm_Wants2Obey,
Your contributions are more than welcome and are looked for and forward too because I find those condensations of that old PDF'ed thread very much more useful than what was elongated there and here. I hope I've made it clear enough to folks that this set of methods is bigger than me and so having to continually thank me will only delay taking up and working with the important knowledge of LW detracting from what it should be about. I sincerely believe that this method opens the door on creating the necessary changes to wives, girlfriends and relationships that are or have become stuck. Listen, I want you guys to take it on change it re-edit it and publicise the LW method everywhere. Yes this takes it out of my hands BUT I'd rather that than this getting lost and forgotten. As you can begin thinking it also frees me up to finding out new things and making things work better and I spend a lot of time thinking reforming and learning - so don't knock a guy for helping. So please do take this forward as you wish. Drawing again on the metaphor of knots, now LW begins and progresses the unknotting affecting to untieing the natural slut for us to enjoy. I've seen it, heard it experienced transformations from repressed to sexually liberated uninhibited talent (SLUT) all over the world guys have put this to working pratical use. I lifted the following off a club advert which reminds me of a passage from 'the ethical slut' but appears to be incorporating the title of another book and some aspects of that content called 'Insatiable Wives' which I haven't yet read in full. QUOTE: "Sexually Liberated Uninhibited Temptress An Insatiable 'slut' is a woman who openly embraces her sexuality. We use the word as a term of endearment and respect. We respect the honesty of women who accept and celebrate that aspect of themselves. We also respect and admire the men who truly recognise the value in having a partner who is a slut. They have the balls to understand and support these qualities in their woman. These men are secure enough in their own sexuality and in their relationship to experience the extra levels of eroticism they can enjoy by being willing to indulge their woman's needs and desires. In everyday society the word 'slut' has negative and derogatory connotations. A slut enjoys sex with lots of partners and whether she is single or in a supportive relationship, this is still seen as a bad thing. Changing societies perceptions of sexuality is a long, hard road and that's not what we're trying to do here. We're 'preaching to the converted'. At Insatiable the word is positive and complimentary. The women it's applied to revel in their sexuality and delight in being appreciated for who they are and that they don't have to hide it. They love being sluts in their own right and for their men." END QUOTE Amen and this is where we're inching our Wives to - Now if we can get back to the subject in hand because thats what it's all about. |
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Thanks for introducing LW and for the info and explanation of the concepts. Thank you also to those who have given us detailed info on their experiences and successes. I have used this only twice, primarily because I go to work before my wife goes to bed. Now that I am working days, I will continue using it frequently and look forward to great results.
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Diving In
I feel that I should interject something here that "we" all might be over looking.
First, let me fill you in on my experiences. I seem to be in the same boat with how far I'm getting. I read the old NW blog and Hep's advice a couple of years ago. We had been to a party and there was a good looking black guy there. I noticed how she acted and sort of back off and observed when see had the chance to speak to him. The body language was unmistakable. We got pretty lit and she was zonked in bed right after we got home. I thought I'd give what we're now calling LW a whirl. When I got close to her she reached for my cock as if we were going to fool around but she fell asleep with my cock in her hand. Okay, i thought, Ill just wait untill she falls asleep more. 15 minutes went by and her breathing was heavy and almost snoring (not typical). Her hand had slipped off my cock but was still down there. My heart was racing (how loud should I be? What the hell am I going to say? What if she wakes up??) So I started - "What a cute black guy. So cute. Cute black guy. mmmmm, what a nice big black cock." Her hand went for my dick. My brain was zinging. "Big black cock. So big mmmmm. I want to stroke it mmmm". I'm getting a short stroke, light touch, slow mo thing happening. My heart is going to bust! Her head is on my shoulder and she thinks she's strokin' a black cock! I kept it up for maybe 10 minutes. I was talking a little hotter and she "woke" with a startle. I kissed her and told her not to stop while I grabbed her hand to keep it on my cock. She layed there for a few seconds. Now, after reading what has transpired in the forum and some digging on my own, I figure that she really wasn't awake after all. My kissing her and grabbing probably woke her. Now, I think she was gathering up her thoughts. Needless to say I got one of the sloppiest and hottest blow jobs I've had in ages. So it's been a couple of years. I got a big black dildo and she enjoys that if I'm not pushy. I have gotten some interracial movies. They make her hot and wet but the unprofessional professionalism turns her off. I've collected up some amature vids but the time it takes to edit/make them unnoticed makes it tough. After following you guys I thought I'd give it a try again. First off, Thank you Hep and every one here for the inspiration. Last week i started again. Waiting for the breathing etc. This time I was going to be a little hotter. We had sex and played with the dildo just before she fell asleep. I had acknowledged "him" as a friend during our lovemaking. "mmmm Big black friend - beautiful body what a big black cock. You love big black cock. mmmmm . pause... What a nice butt you just want to squeeze that butt. mmmm. Suck on that big black cock while you squeeze that butt. mmmm" Her legs moved and she turned to lay on her stomach. "mmm climb on top and make him cum. mmmm. Climb on top. mmmm Make him cum mmmmm. (she loves being on top) Her breathing got more heavy and rapid. I figured I'd leave it at that but the heavy breathing went on for a few minutes. Hep had said to suggest something that she wouldn't do necessarily... "Lick his balls - those silky balls mmmm. Lick his balls then kiss me with a big sloppy wet kiss mmmm. Her breathing got faster an she "woke" and turned over again. I let it ride and called it a night. She told me the next morning that she had a weird dream and woke with her heart racing. I said the she rolled over and hugged me. Kind of a half smile then perplexed look on her face.:) The reason why I'm posting is because of this morning. I presented our friend and while I was pumping her I put his balls near her face. She reached for them with her tongue! I let her suck on his balls for awhile and then she slobbered a big one on me in a hotter fashion than I'm used to. Needless to say that was the end for me. I couldn't hold back anymore.:D It's working. No doubt, It's working. Something we seem to be overlooking in these posts. This process is really a cog in the wheel of multiple approaches to an end. One of the things that have to be addressed are the insecurities that married women face when confronted with this option. That she may feel sub-consciously, this is being "pushed' on her.. "Does that mean he's looking for an excuse to cheat on me" etc etc. Other forums have covered this. Maye LW could be used to alleviate those natural fears. You could then reinforce those comforts in the waking moments when the time is right. I see first hand the power of suggestion the LW can have. Shouldn't it be used as a constructive adjunct to the relationship? Sorry for the long windedness. I felt I had a lot of catching up to do.:) |
Thanks for your post :) If I understand you correct, LW be more intense received at our girls if we have sex before sleeping?
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Great post fingerlaker. This thread seems to drift and then get back on track, so appreciate your comments.
I agree with everything you said and your experiences with the heavy breathing and tossing seems to track with my experience and comments on the thread. Strangely, some nights she is a breathing machine and seems to respond and other nights very light sleeper and I just don't seem to feel I am making headway. So, I went out to the web and looked up hypnosis techniques. There is alot of crap out there and much of it for sale. However, there is some good stuff on Hubbard, as in DL Hubbard and a few others about hypnosis while sleeping. It seems to be a serious and quick way to the subconscious. Interestingly, what we are doing is almost there but seems to lack some additional steps. Okay, so we are all doing pretty close to the same thing but the "experts on several sites consistently say this. Taken from the website. On entering the room where your sleeping subject is, you will need to establish a rapport with them. You can do this by sitting quietly by their bedside and watching their breathing. By matching your own breathing to that of your subject for a few minutes they will become receptive to you on an unconscious level. Gradually, change your own breathing by deliberately slowing it down - your subject should soon follow suit - don't worry if it doesn't happen instantly - they will eventually follow. The next stage is to gently stroke one of your subject's fingers - keeping this in time with your breathing. Avoid any abrupt movements as this will disturb your subject - after a few minutes you can commence by saying (softly) the person's name, followed by: This is your mother/father (or whatever your relationship to the subject is) here - you can hear me - but you won't wake up - you can hear me but you won't wake up. Repeat this sentence several times. Your subject may move but even if they verbally respond at this stage it is unlikely that they are awake. Follow this through with: When the very deepest part of your mind is listening to me - you can let me know by moving this (index or whichever) finger - and you can still hear me - but you won't wake up. Again, you may need to do this several times. Milton Erickson used this method with his son after he was involved in a road crash and I believe it took him several nights to achieve bringing him out of sleep and into hypnosis so do persevere. When you get the response you're looking for, you can continue with suggestions such as: You can talk, but you won't wake up. The very deepest part of your mind knows what your problem is and can help us to find the solution. Or - you can give direct suggestions for whatever you're trying to achieve. Hope this helps guys. Just adding to Heps comments and would welcome his input on the above. |
Did you already try that?
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