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tcd2000 09-16-2010 04:07 AM

Did I miss something?
 
Hep,

Somewhere in the huge pdf you were going to put together an audio file for someone named Gabby and her husband. Do you ever create that?

Also, when creating triggers, are they one word triggers, or can you use small phrases such as "Nice Ass"?

Can you, or anyone else for that matter, post some SPECIFIC phrases they're trying to suggest while LW?

SquirtKing 09-16-2010 06:28 AM

I am using the word "tight". In Dutch tight is also used for phrases like:

"That's looking good", or "The planning is very precise".

I whisper: [name]if I say tight, I want you to f**k a bbc etc.

hephaestus 09-16-2010 12:14 PM

Tcd2000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tcd2000 (Post 11795)
Hep,

Somewhere in the huge pdf you were going to put together an audio file for someone named Gabby and her husband. Do you ever create that?

Also, when creating triggers, are they one word triggers, or can you use small phrases such as "Nice Ass"?

Can you, or anyone else for that matter, post some SPECIFIC phrases they're trying to suggest while LW?

The hypnosis audio for the Laws of Triangular marriage are buried on a harddrive which failed and I'm still piecing it back together from edited and reedited portions of adobe audition audio files. So that's a project ongoing.
That was very specific file for marriage safety where partners are already doing the IR in their marriage and involves complete conscious compliance for the lady accepting to knowingly listening.

There's certainly nothing wrong with building triggers out of specific words or a sentence. Though a consistent and shortish sentence is necessary. Anything can be used and noting squirtkings use of "tight" is both acceptable and specific to him and his wife.
There's examples on the PDF of what one can say BUT it's up to you what it is you want to say because again it is relationship and individual specific tailoring to what it is you want. Starting small and commanding small requests to building into much larger requirements.
Ultimately YOU have the creative control yourself to decide what to say based on what you want- if you need any help with that you got to say what it is your after bUT build small commands to put her in the right direction so telling her to want to use a black vibrator with you licking her clit and using it on her to her imagining a big black man using her as you lick and eat her making her feel so horny and good that your there using her with a big black man together.
And then you can build more and new expansions of the original commands around that same trigger so that as you evolve the thoughts and desires within her the triggers can be reused as the extra stuff is added on as commands.

Extract from PDF :
Then using it during sleep - the 'loving whispers' approach and saying

EXAMPLES; (get creative!! because you can! right)

"when I say the word,.............,you will immediately think about BBC etc etc etc..................", " when I say the word..............., you will picture in your mind all the things I have been NOW suggesting to you" , " when I say the word......................,you will begin to think and imagine scenarios with big black men using your body like a slut" , "when I say the word.................you will begin to act like the slut that is deep down at your core and you can begin to release with me"

Now whilst she's awake bring the trigger word (anchor word) into conversations and watch for her reactions and start beginning to use and enhance.

So I ask you tcd2000 what exactly is it you want for your wife or gf? And what do you want to do as part of that?
Then perhaps I can give you a handle on some of the things to say. Remember this can be very straight forward and doesn't need complication just willing ability creating

SquirtKing 09-17-2010 06:55 AM

I whispered this night almost 40 minutes.

I whispered:
"[name] if I say the word "thight" you would like to fuck a bbc"
"[name] if I say the word "thight" you will become a slut that only wants to fuck a bbc"

Also I whispered:
"now you imagine how it feels to feel that bbc deep inside your pussy, you're getting wet"

I will try to whisper more frequently te next few days. Let's see what happen.

@Hep
I almost never call her real name but I almost call my wife "darling". Can I use also "darling" instead of her name?

hephaestus 09-17-2010 07:06 AM

Real world tie ins
 
There may be advantages to creating real world tie ins to places and situations e.g telling her when she sees a big black man in the street and in passing that she will feel instantly aroused and her clit and nipples will become erect and tingle with anticipation as she imagines his big black cock in her his big black hands all over her and his black Mans lips and Tongue exploring her.
AND OR also you might want her to have some need to want to go to a certain bar or place where black guys hang out? This is just a couple of suggestions that begin offering real possibilities. There's similar and multiple ideas based on your and her requirements and where your at in terms of how far along you think she is.

Remember everything I say is a potential ad-lib a bases from which to make something similar and or to spark your imagination into you creating something unique for you

hephaestus 09-17-2010 07:34 AM

Darling
 
SquirtKing - yes "darling" is in everyway acceptable if she is especially used to it in her normal life. The unconscious will pick it up and run with it.

hephaestus 09-17-2010 09:28 AM

Another point
 
I know I've probably mentioned it on the PDF and I'll share it again here.

We live not too far from a railway track which gets frequent though slow speed use. The funny thing is that the sound of the train going over the track makes a close enough sound to a chant of "BigBlackCock" over and over as it passes so that this has been built into the loving whispers where I will stop with general LW suggestions and launch into " BigBlackCock, BigBlackCock, BigBlackCock," continuing from whisper on approach to crescendo on passing to tailing off to whisper and disappearing as the train/track sound goes off into the distance.

Another one of mine is fairly specific to the UK unless your avid listeners of British Broadcasting Company world service. We have a multitude of BBC channels and radio in the UK and this offers a endless possibility of reinforcement this way. LOL I know from black friends just how funny they think the whole BBC uk tv and radio company. Lol it's got real chuckle factor. Just the other day I saw a small White car travelling down the road with the giant black letters BBC on it and of course I smiled wishing my wife had been with me and wishing I'd taken a picture for you guys.

dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF 09-17-2010 12:57 PM

Hey Guys,
Thought I would post an update. I have been using these techniques lately to try and accomplish a couple more things with her and the sun is peaking through again. She has always been a rather conservative dresser and I have wanted to get her to go braless in public. Without these procedures it would have never happened but it worked as we went out to a different town for some grocery shopping and guess who went without a bra?

Yep, her little 34B perkies went uncovered but it took some work on my part but hey, it was well worth it. After we got back in the car I asked her if she noticed that dude checking her out in the store, . She asked what dude. I said it was a dude and his wife in the register line a couple of rows down from us. She said she didn't notice but I could tell she wanted to know more. She said I doubt he was looking at me. I said oh, he was definitely looking at you. This is when I triggered her and said it was a black guy and his wife. She said what was his wife doing this whole time and I said nothing really except unloading the cart.

This is where I stepped it up a little and said I know one thing, if I had been his wife I would have been looking at you too because you lookin mighty fine. I got a thank you and then she sort of drifted off into a thinking mode. I wanted to pursuit the conversation but I didn't want to push the wrong button by saying something stupid so I kind of let it go at that.

I went into my own thinking mode about how I sure would love to see her with a black couple. But first things first I guess. But that is now on the whisper list a little further down the road after I get some black dick in her then I might shoot for trying a little whisper persuasion on her about getting some black female cum in her to go along with some regular black cum. I just have to be careful not to overload her too early. Not that I wouldn't love to see her overloaded with both versions of black cum real soon.

I really like those vids with the black couple controlling a white female. A statement of dominance is made early when they have the white girl completely naked while they are still fully clothed. Especially when the black female starts talking shit and telling her what to do, even making her go down there and get to work on making her cum without the black gal doing anything in return. It's like they make her do all the work to get them off and then they are through with her...for now anyway. But like I say that is a little ways off just yet but it is fun to think about. So far there isn't a doubt in my mind that these procedures will work to drive her right on down that highway.

I will check back in later and thanks again for all of this.

hephaestus 09-17-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF (Post 11878)
Hey Guys,
Thought I would post an update. I have been using these techniques lately to try and accomplish a couple more things with her and the sun is peaking through again. She has always been a rather conservative dresser and I have wanted to get her to go braless in public. Without these procedures it would have never happened but it worked as we went out to a different town for some grocery shopping and guess who went without a bra?

Yep, her little 34B perkies went uncovered but it took some work on my part but hey, it was well worth it. After we got back in the car I asked her if she noticed that dude checking her out in the store, . She asked what dude. I said it was a dude and his wife in the register line a couple of rows down from us. She said she didn't notice but I could tell she wanted to know more. She said I doubt he was looking at me. I said oh, he was definitely looking at you. This is when I triggered her and said it was a black guy and his wife. She said what was his wife doing this whole time and I said nothing really except unloading the cart.

This is where I stepped it up a little and said I know one thing, if I had been his wife I would have been looking at you too because you lookin mighty fine. I got a thank you and then she sort of drifted off into a thinking mode. I wanted to pursuit the conversation but I didn't want to push the wrong button by saying something stupid so I kind of let it go at that.

I went into my own thinking mode about how I sure would love to see her with a black couple. But first things first I guess. But that is now on the whisper list a little further down the road after I get some black dick in her then I might shoot for trying a little whisper persuasion on her about getting some black female cum in her to go along with some regular black cum. I just have to be careful not to overload her too early. Not that I wouldn't love to see her overloaded with both versions of black cum real soon.

I really like those vids with the black couple controlling a white female. A statement of dominance is made early when they have the white girl completely naked while they are still fully clothed. Especially when the black female starts talking shit and telling her what to do, even making her go down there and get to work on making her cum without the black gal doing anything in return. It's like they make her do all the work to get them off and then they are through with her...for now anyway. But like I say that is a little ways off just yet but it is fun to think about. So far there isn't a doubt in my mind that these procedures will work to drive her right on down that highway.

I will check back in later and thanks again for all of this.

These are great skillful moves dwm_wants2obey your moving at the speed thats right for you and her totally appreciate why your taking your time - this is the kind of chess playing at that slow rate of change - piece by piece thats going to pay dividends.
I think many guys get too concerned about making too many changes too quickly and can end up faltering. And I know why we all want this for our wives and girlfriends and because of that we need to sometimes step back from it and look at exactly what we think that next move should be. I also appreciate that when people are up close and personal to their delectable wives with all those feelings and desires going round and round that feeling the need for instant change and the frustration with not getting that quick response they have started to succomb to drastic and unreasoned response.
So I say to all - give yourselves the breathers and step back - take stock stop and take advice.

Jacko1 09-18-2010 12:28 PM

Pdf
 
Cannot seem to get the PDF to download. What am I doing wrong..........?

hephaestus 09-18-2010 09:56 PM

Copy & paste
 
http://www.4shared.com/document/FC0vu3fW/NWO_3TC_Loving_Whispers.html

SquirtKing 09-19-2010 07:00 AM

Friday evening I came back from work. My wife got one day off. Later that evening I asked her: did you play with yourself? She said yes, with bunny. Later that evening I said: you don't have to lie that you used the BBC dildo instead of the bunny... She said, how did you know that?! I said: I didn't know... I wast just gambling about it....

Yesterday... I don't know how it happens but she said. Once a week a black man is shopping in our store. She said he is looking good.

I swear: this is the first time in my life she said such things out of herself. I am almost sure that it couldn't take more than a year before she will fuck like a whore on a bbc :D

mikewhitey 09-19-2010 01:50 PM

Wow I havent been in here for 6 days and then I look again and the threads grown like a Black Mans cock.

You guys are inspirational. I feel like were part of some brotherhood of cucks though also notice tnblackstallion has got a good NONCUCK use for getting his wife interested in other women.

What an idea guys the world over turning girlfriends and wives into the sluts they can be.

I guess this stuff could be used for any use including suggesting givin up smoking that I used for selfhelp mp3s.

Taken a copy of those selfhelp hypnosis files. Hep you ever thought about putting in some extra BBC suggestion in files like that?

hephaestus 09-20-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquirtKing (Post 11991)
Friday evening I came back from work. My wife got one day off. Later that evening I asked her: did you play with yourself? She said yes, with bunny. Later that evening I said: you don't have to lie that you used the BBC dildo instead of the bunny... She said, how did you know that?! I said: I didn't know... I wast just gambling about it....

Yesterday... I don't know how it happens but she said. Once a week a black man is shopping in our store. She said he is looking good.

I swear: this is the first time in my life she said such things out of herself. I am almost sure that it couldn't take more than a year before she will fuck like a whore on a bbc :D

Looking good SquirtKing.

Yes mikewhitey I have thought about it. Not convinced by the whole subliminal suggestion where its hidden away so well that its inaudible. Hence why I haven't dropped any suggestion into the back ground of self help audios because as far as I can tell you have to be able to hear it to be able to change and since someone could come out of trance whilst listening to these and then go "WTF am I being told to fuck big black men" by a self help audio.....
In my opinion its much safer to just build audible suggestions into LW and doing that at night to make the changes at the pace and safety that's appropriate to you and bringing in triggers for awakening those thoughts during the day.

I did do something based around a bit of music BUT people soon get fed up with listening to just one album so the effectiveness just drops to zero. So my opinion is that its too costly in time to make these subliminal suggestions covertly in audio files for no return and with the thought they may not be effective in that format.
I say this because I know someone that did a psychological experiment at University where he encouraged people to listen to relaxation music and sounds having dumped hidden subliminals with all kinds of depressing and nasty suggestions to keep them awake and agitated etc. They mainly concluded that they were great relaxation audio files. Again he'd hidden the suggestion so well behind the other sounds that they were for all purposes inaudible to the human ear. The conclusion is that if the sub / unconscious can't hear it then it didn't happen and isn't going to happen this way.

LW has your own editorial control built in and the ability to self modify volume and a great stop button which is just the opposite that can be imagined of audio files where things could get out of hand.
LW bypasses having to put anyone into a altered unconscious state because there already there in it and the unconscious has already been freed up to just lay there and listen and listen as we know it will!
Audio hynosis files do have a place and use and the effective and audible ones can only be used with that forewarned knowledge and conscious compliance by the listener accepting the suggestions and commands once they've wittingly gone into that hypnotised sub / uncon state.

Anyway it's late and my wife is upstairs tired and ready for some Loving Whispers.

SquirtKing 09-21-2010 06:17 AM

Okay, let's see what happens tonight. I have whispered that she will fuck her BBC dildo tonight when I say the word.... I will keep you posted.

mikewhitey 09-21-2010 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hephaestus (Post 12070)
Looking good SquirtKing.

Yes mikewhitey I have thought about it. Not convinced by the whole subliminal suggestion where its hidden away so well that its inaudible. Hence why I haven't dropped any suggestion into the back ground of self help audios because as far as I can tell you have to be able to hear it to be able to change and since someone could come out of trance whilst listening to these and then go "WTF am I being told to fuck big black men" by a self help audio.....
In my opinion its much safer to just build audible suggestions into LW and doing that at night to make the changes at the pace and safety that's appropriate to you and bringing in triggers for awakening those thoughts during the day.

I did do something based around a bit of music BUT people soon get fed up with listening to just one album so the effectiveness just drops to zero. So my opinion is that its too costly in time to make these subliminal suggestions covertly in audio files for no return and with the thought they may not be effective in that format.
I say this because I know someone that did a psychological experiment at University where he encouraged people to listen to relaxation music and sounds having dumped hidden subliminals with all kinds of depressing and nasty suggestions to keep them awake and agitated etc. They mainly concluded that they were great relaxation audio files. Again he'd hidden the suggestion so well behind the other sounds that they were for all purposes inaudible to the human ear. The conclusion is that if the sub / unconscious can't hear it then it didn't happen and isn't going to happen this way.

LW has your own editorial control built in and the ability to self modify volume and a great stop button which is just the opposite that can be imagined of audio files where things could get out of hand.
LW bypasses having to put anyone into a altered unconscious state because there already there in it and the unconscious has already been freed up to just lay there and listen and listen as we know it will!
Audio hynosis files do have a place and use and the effective and audible ones can only be used with that forewarned knowledge and conscious compliance by the listener accepting the suggestions and commands once they've wittingly gone into that hypnotised sub / uncon state.

Anyway it's late and my wife is upstairs tired and ready for some Loving Whispers.

I take your points. I too have only ever had success using normal audible voiced suggestion when I listened to self help stopping smoking which worked really well. Unlike the subliminal type of thing which I started using and gave up on with stopping smoking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquirtKing (Post 12106)
Okay, let's see what happens tonight. I have whispered that she will fuck her BBC dildo tonight when I say the word.... I will keep you posted.

Hope that goes well SquirtKing I think Ive got mine doing this recently and also one where I touch a point on her shoulder and then she initiates blow job and sex.

Jacko1 09-22-2010 09:52 AM

First Night of whispering
 
New to the thread and session. I have read thru the thread and also the PDF. Thank you and have put it to work.
Woke up at 2 am to my partner snoring and began whispering to her. I spent the better part of 20 minutes using the technique on the quieter side of her breathing. All suggestions of BBC and her desire to have it.

How long should my sessions run? Any useful techniques that have worked well? Should I suggest the same things or change it up?

Keep you posted on our progress.

tnblackstallion 09-22-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hephaestus (Post 11640)
Hi tnblackstallion

I get the angle your coming from tnblackstallion and there's no reason to suppose its unattainable.
At a slight different angle its something I'm working into my wifes LW to see her with other women in a bi-sex way and with black men at the same time.

Shes never previously showed any interest in other women PRIOR to this but since, now has talked about "If she ever did do a woman" two women have come up now as candidates (both celebs) and therefore unattainable BUT shows something is shifting in her.

I really think that the natural slut is there in perhaps all women and I think this is the most likely set of methods that can begin to tease and tweak it out.

When I think of anyone's psychology I see a mass of knots and especially when they have that 'conservative' or religious edge those knots can be imagined as pretty tight and needing a lot of picking and work and as you begin seeing those knots loosening well its a great feeling of accomplishment and further knowing that they can be unravelled.

Good luck on your own special project - that's what I like about this stuff is how it can be put to such diverse use.

Hep

Thanks! My wife is definitely in the "conservative knots" category. A couple of times she joked about girl/girl, but every time I try to broach the subject myself even in a joking way she acts disgusted and says that's just not her thing. (The joke was that someone thought she and a friend at a party were a couple. She thought that was really funny. But there have been lesbians who really did come on to her and she turned them down flat).

My trouble is she is a REAL light sleeper. The first night I tried this she kept waking up and saying 'What are you saying?" Then I tried gently touching her ass to see if she was awake. She woke up. The next day she was like "Why are you touching my ass while I'm asleep". I've found if I whisper really quietly she doesn't wake up, but I wonder if she hears anything? Anyway, if I have any positive results I'll let yall know.

hephaestus 09-22-2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacko1 (Post 12171)
New to the thread and session. I have read thru the thread and also the PDF. Thank you and have put it to work.
Woke up at 2 am to my partner snoring and began whispering to her. I spent the better part of 20 minutes using the technique on the quieter side of her breathing. All suggestions of BBC and her desire to have it.

How long should my sessions run? Any useful techniques that have worked well? Should I suggest the same things or change it up?

Keep you posted on our progress.

Hi Jacko1,
I think 20 mins is good to start with and doing this several times a week and in such a way that hopefully you'll see enough small changes to spur you onto bigger better and longer sessions. Enjoy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnblackstallion (Post 12218)
Thanks! My wife is definitely in the "conservative knots" category. A couple of times she joked about girl/girl, but every time I try to broach the subject myself even in a joking way she acts disgusted and says that's just not her thing. (The joke was that someone thought she and a friend at a party were a couple. She thought that was really funny. But there have been lesbians who really did come on to her and she turned them down flat).

My trouble is she is a REAL light sleeper. The first night I tried this she kept waking up and saying 'What are you saying?" Then I tried gently touching her ass to see if she was awake. She woke up. The next day she was like "Why are you touching my ass while I'm asleep". I've found if I whisper really quietly she doesn't wake up, but I wonder if she hears anything? Anyway, if I have any positive results I'll let yall know.

Tnblackstallion.
Yeah light sleeping is a issue BUT as long as your voice can get in uninterrupted through her ears without other sounds or blankets / sheets in the way the unconscious is great at picking it up.
Its a pity she doesn't feel the need to take sleeping tablets on occasion to take the edge off her light sleeping because that really helps go loud and forceful.

Her becoming accustomed to hearing her husbands voice at night might make her remain more easily asleep over a week. BUT I can't deny this is definitely a issue.
A T.V left on in the room with you varying volume could help give you back ground noise excuses to such a issue and perhaps accustom her too to extra night noises? I think the principles of vary test and refine and redefine.
Really value your unique input considering your taking the principle and reapplying it to a different situation and perspective.

Wishing you all the best LW luck - which means its also my time to get up to bed and interestingly shes taken her night sedation tonight..... which means I get to go in heavy and deep.

mikewhitey 09-22-2010 11:30 PM

A open question
 
I find it amazing how far Ive bought my conservative wife and I got to wonder why firstly no ones really put this together before and secondly why more people arent using it considering so many people say they want their wives to cuck them.

know there a lot of viewings having gone on here and I guess this was the case before with your old site Hep

But it makes me wonder how many people are really committed to exploring sexually with their wives.

Look tnblackstallion is here and looking from a different point of view about how he can convert and change LW use to getting his wife involved with other women and I suppose then other play mates for tnblackstallion. So my point is heres a guy thats already found a new and different use for LW.

And within such a short space of time this thread has grown and yet so few wannabe cucks are here and contributing so is that fear, ignorance or just that for most this really is just a fantasy?

dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF 09-23-2010 05:46 AM

Hey Guys,
Thought I would chime in with another update. I have now got her going braless more than I could or would have ever imagined and I am loving it. This stuff can work on lots of things. It's almost like the sky is the limit. My fantasies of what I have wanted for quite a while are suddenly happening, or at least I am seeing progress towards them happening.

She is noticing black guys more and more and she is even making comments at certain times that I never thought I would hear her say. My list continues to grow on different things I want to implement with these procedures. I definitely want her to become more dominant to me while also nudging her towards complete submission to black men but I want to make sure she remains safe by using trigger words that come from me.

Just to experiment some I used LW for a few sessions about black women to look for any reactions from her. I haven't really pushed this much yet nor spent the required time on it to see much reaction but I did see a flutter from her on it just yesterday while we were out together. I used the trigger words black car while using LW that when she hears the words black car she will have the desire for an attractive black woman. While we were out I was on the hunt for a black female and a black car close together. I was beginning to lose faith that I was going to see this when we rounded a corner and lo and behold there they were. A black woman was unlocking the door on a black car about to get in when I said this dude at work just bought a black car just like that one. She said I like her outfit. I wonder where she got it. I said you want to ask her? She said mmm, no but I might have if I would have been walking by her or something.

This stuff is great.

hephaestus 09-23-2010 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikewhitey (Post 12221)
I find it amazing how far Ive bought my conservative wife and I got to wonder why firstly no ones really put this together before and secondly why more people arent using it considering so many people say they want their wives to cuck them.

know there a lot of viewings having gone on here and I guess this was the case before with your old site Hep

But it makes me wonder how many people are really committed to exploring sexually with their wives.

Look tnblackstallion is here and looking from a different point of view about how he can convert and change LW use to getting his wife involved with other women and I suppose then other play mates for tnblackstallion. So my point is heres a guy thats already found a new and different use for LW.

And within such a short space of time this thread has grown and yet so few wannabe cucks are here and contributing so is that fear, ignorance or just that for most this really is just a fantasy?

I have no idea mikewhitey on any of those things - I don't know if anyone else was working on triggers and LW type suggestion though 1 guy from the old thread said he had done whispering at night BUT without the formalised approach and without the idea of triggers and anchors which are both born out of the knowledge of hypnosis
and NLP.

As to how many wannabes there are that really want this again I have no idea though there's always a lot of viewings going on on these threads BUT I wouldn't like to really contemplate if this information is falling on deaf ears and for what reasons those are.
I know it works and so for whatever band of like minded brothers that wish to help their wives open up to being sluts I will continue. May be people find it too unbelievable - find it too difficult to grasp and certainly the narrow minded 'norms' will never get it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF (Post 12234)
Hey Guys,
Thought I would chime in with another update. I have now got her going braless more than I could or would have ever imagined and I am loving it. This stuff can work on lots of things. It's almost like the sky is the limit. My fantasies of what I have wanted for quite a while are suddenly happening, or at least I am seeing progress towards them happening.

She is noticing black guys more and more and she is even making comments at certain times that I never thought I would hear her say. My list continues to grow on different things I want to implement with these procedures. I definitely want her to become more dominant to me while also nudging her towards complete submission to black men but I want to make sure she remains safe by using trigger words that come from me.

Just to experiment some I used LW for a few sessions about black women to look for any reactions from her. I haven't really pushed this much yet nor spent the required time on it to see much reaction but I did see a flutter from her on it just yesterday while we were out together. I used the trigger words black car while using LW that when she hears the words black car she will have the desire for an attractive black woman. While we were out I was on the hunt for a black female and a black car close together. I was beginning to lose faith that I was going to see this when we rounded a corner and lo and behold there they were. A black woman was unlocking the door on a black car about to get in when I said this dude at work just bought a black car just like that one. She said I like her outfit. I wonder where she got it. I said you want to ask her? She said mmm, no but I might have if I would have been walking by her or something.

This stuff is great.

Glad things are going well dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF - I always find myself shake my head with bewilderment every day hearing and seeing positive practical changes on the growing field of LW methods. The small solutions to loosening knots leading to the unravel lings. Leads me to finally nodding with a happy smile knowing there is a way - a candle in the dark of what was once despair. Thats why I continue to spread the message because of you good people and the effects I've seen in my own life as well as yours.

tnblackstallion 09-23-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF (Post 12234)
Hey Guys,
Thought I would chime in with another update. I have now got her going braless more than I could or would have ever imagined and I am loving it. This stuff can work on lots of things. It's almost like the sky is the limit. My fantasies of what I have wanted for quite a while are suddenly happening, or at least I am seeing progress towards them happening.

She is noticing black guys more and more and she is even making comments at certain times that I never thought I would hear her say. My list continues to grow on different things I want to implement with these procedures. I definitely want her to become more dominant to me while also nudging her towards complete submission to black men but I want to make sure she remains safe by using trigger words that come from me.

Just to experiment some I used LW for a few sessions about black women to look for any reactions from her. I haven't really pushed this much yet nor spent the required time on it to see much reaction but I did see a flutter from her on it just yesterday while we were out together. I used the trigger words black car while using LW that when she hears the words black car she will have the desire for an attractive black woman. While we were out I was on the hunt for a black female and a black car close together. I was beginning to lose faith that I was going to see this when we rounded a corner and lo and behold there they were. A black woman was unlocking the door on a black car about to get in when I said this dude at work just bought a black car just like that one. She said I like her outfit. I wonder where she got it. I said you want to ask her? She said mmm, no but I might have if I would have been walking by her or something.

This stuff is great.

Oh wow! Did you have any indication that she might be interested in women of any race before this? What exactly did you say? I wish some of you guys that are having better success would record what you're saying. Maybe run it through voice morphing software so there's no incriminating evidence and then post the MP3. :) Hell, some guys might pay for that.

dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF 09-24-2010 01:25 AM

tnblackstallion, actually there was no indication that ever surfaced with her about other women and that is the reason I was so shocked and pleased that this is even working on that. In just the last few hours I have pushed buttons and got responses from her. I tell you this is fantastic.

You really have no clue how bad I have wanted to see her dominated by an attractive black female and from what I have seen so far I really think this can happen. There is one scenario right now that can fit right into this with her. She has a little part time job that she works at mostly as a hobby more than the money. She makes good money at her regular job and actually doesn't do bad with the part time one. It's a rather small outfit with about ten employees and there are a couple of younger than her black gals that work there as full time workers so they are both over Julie with time and rank so to speak.

I have heard her talk about them both before and this is actually what got me turned on about it. Julie has been working more hours at this part time job lately mainly because the two black gals have been having her come in more. OK, I confess, I did talk to them both recently while Julie was at her regular job and I told them how much Julie likes this part time job and I told them that she really feels like she owes something to them as black females but she can't put her finger on why she feels that way.

The conversation seemed to interest them the more I talked about Julie and what she says about them. I made it clear that I thought she felt compelled to sort of do whatever she was told because at her regular job she is pretty much in control of others and she has mentioned that it is nice to be told what to do for a change instead of vice versa and I thought this would work out real nice and fit right in with the plan. I even told them that they might enjoy having authority over an older white female that is normally in charge and they both seemed to agree. They are both about late twenties close to thirty I think.

Anyway, when I have more time I will talk more about this but I need to run for now.

Let me say though to stay at it guys. It definitely works so don't get discouraged if it doesn't happen as fast as you would like. But you will get there.

Jacko1 09-24-2010 01:39 AM

So how do you do it??
 
dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF

Like others, I am trying to work the magic. What do you say to her specifically to get the results......how long and how often? Anthing you can do to share your technique will only help the rest of us live the dream..........

Thanks

tnblackstallion 09-24-2010 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacko1 (Post 12279)
dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF

Like others, I am trying to work the magic. What do you say to her specifically to get the results......how long and how often? Anthing you can do to share your technique will only help the rest of us live the dream..........

Thanks

I agree! We need details! What phrases seem to work? I'd love to hear this on audio.

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Originally Posted by dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF (Post 12276)
tnblackstallion, actually there was no indication that ever surfaced with her about other women and that is the reason I was so shocked and pleased that this is even working on that. In just the last few hours I have pushed buttons and got responses from her. I tell you this is fantastic.

You really have no clue how bad I have wanted to see her dominated by an attractive black female and from what I have seen so far I really think this can happen. There is one scenario right now that can fit right into this with her. She has a little part time job that she works at mostly as a hobby more than the money. She makes good money at her regular job and actually doesn't do bad with the part time one. It's a rather small outfit with about ten employees and there are a couple of younger than her black gals that work there as full time workers so they are both over Julie with time and rank so to speak.

I have heard her talk about them both before and this is actually what got me turned on about it. Julie has been working more hours at this part time job lately mainly because the two black gals have been having her come in more. OK, I confess, I did talk to them both recently while Julie was at her regular job and I told them how much Julie likes this part time job and I told them that she really feels like she owes something to them as black females but she can't put her finger on why she feels that way.

The conversation seemed to interest them the more I talked about Julie and what she says about them. I made it clear that I thought she felt compelled to sort of do whatever she was told because at her regular job she is pretty much in control of others and she has mentioned that it is nice to be told what to do for a change instead of vice versa and I thought this would work out real nice and fit right in with the plan. I even told them that they might enjoy having authority over an older white female that is normally in charge and they both seemed to agree. They are both about late twenties close to thirty I think.

That sounds wonderful! Did these two women give you any indication they might be bi?

Anyway, here's what I've tried with little success so far. (Haven't done it much yet). Whispering to my wife that I want to see her eat pussy. Tell her in her sleep to imagine a friend of hers that we both think may have been bi-curious was eating her pussy. Telling her to eat this friends pussy and that it tastes so good. I haven't noticed anything yet. But is the technique close to what has been working?

dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF 09-24-2010 12:11 PM

Hey Guys,

When I use LW I more or less tell her that when she hears the trigger word or words that she will be wanting whatever I am pushing such as the black gal scenario that I have recently been working into the mix. I used the word desiring instead of like wanting. I think I said something like you will have the desire to see, touch, taste her black pussy.

The trigger words I used was black car and luckily that one black gal was unlocking her car door on her black car and I immediately said that this dude at work bought a black car just like that one and Julies response was she liked the outfit that the black lady was wearing. Coincidence? Possible, but I don't think so. She might have been thinking that she liked what was on the inside of that outfit. I think it works best when you use trigger words that would be used in the particular situations of when and where your girl would have the best possibility of being around black at that time but that is just my take on it.

When I was talking to the two black females at Julies part time job I sort of worked the subject of sex into the conversation with them. I told them that she might bring up conversations about sex sometimes because she seems to be going through an exploration phase I guess you could call it and if they were not interested in discussing stuff with her if she did bring it up for them not to hold it against her or think bad of her.

I said you ladies could even have some fun with it pretty easy if you wanted and then I backed off hoping they would inquire more elaboration on it. To my relief one said how you mean have fun with it? I said you know fun. It could be whatever you wanted it to be really because Julie has already mentioned to me that she feels more at ease here and is ready to obey instead of command or to do whatever you tell her to do. So you could make her do whatever. Then I kind of winked and put my hands over my mouth while laughing and whispered make her strip and work naked. Then I immediately squinted my eyes and shook my head and said did I just say that? Luckily they both laughed and one said yeah, you said that. Then I said you ladies probably think I am crazy by now and I guess maybe I am a little but you only live once I reckon. That softened them up a little so I sort of laid it a little thicker as I went hoping I didn't run out of luck or stir up a wasp nest.

I told them I don't know how many chances they normally get, if any at all, to have control over a white lady that usually has the control over most others and I just thought this might be an opportunity for them to enjoy the advantage and enjoy themselves with it. I am a gambler from way back anyway and this was a gamble by even bringing up a sexual conversation with them or discussing it with them period. But I have always had a knack for looking at folks and being able to distinguish what type of attitude they would bring to the table in a conversation. These two black gals just looked the part to me in that they would be the type to take an advantage if one surfaced.

I said don't get me wrong here and think I am prying into your business or your private lives. But I am one that likes to try and help people enjoy life while they can and I just thought you ladies seemed to me to be the type that knows what they want and how to get it and I admire that and also enjoy doing what I can to help. If you think maybe I am off base or stepping on any toes here then I will be the first one out the door never to return but on the other hand if you want my help for anything then I am on it for you.

I give them my number and said if I can ever do anything for you ladies I am just a few pushed buttons away and may I ask that you don't tell Julie that I spoke with you ladies. I would much rather have her telling me about stuff she did instead of asking me questions about stuff I did, if you know what I mean.

I got on out of there after that. I figured I laid down somewhat of a foundation for a new road there and maybe these two fine ladies will pave the way from there.

I will post more soon on this developing situation. Julie might just get blacked for the first time with some black pussy juice instead of a black mans cum but I haven't, and won't give up there either. I wish I could LW the black gals and nudge them towards having their black boyfriends give Julie her first black dick, ha.

Later.

oldraleighguy 09-24-2010 01:34 PM

I'm using this to try to encourage my wife to go farther with a guy she's already talking to. He makes suggestions, and she laughs them off, or changes the subject, but he's persistent. So I'm using LW to try to get her to realize that if she wants to continue to be his close friend, she's going to have to accept the sexual part of the friendship. I whisper "Jane, you want John, you have to tell him you want him. You will email him, and tell him you want to sleep with him." I keep repeatiing things like that- but I just started a few days ago, and I don't have any success to report yet.

Jacko1 09-24-2010 10:17 PM

Its working
 
Update

I have begun whispering (2nd time) and last night I think I may have had a breakthrough. I spent about 30 minutes whispering to her. Suggestive thoughts about her desire to have big cocks and having sex with big black men, needing black men and being with multiple black cocks, dreaming about big dicks, swallowing black mens semen and being a total slut whore in general.

When she awoke this morning, she told me that she awoke very wet and sore. She said she must have had some sort of orgasm. I said well you were really loud last night and it kept me up. I played stupid as when I was whispering to her, she half awoke asked if I had said something. I said NO. She immediately fell back into a deep sleep.

So, this morning, I pulled out a very large wht dildo we have. I am trying to get her primed for a BBC. She hates this thing. Its about 10 inches long and as wide as a tree trunk. In the past, she said it was too large and was painful for her. We have not used it in over a year. I left this magnificent dick under the covers, next to her pillow as I left for work. She was heading back to bed for another hour or so. I am interested to see if she used it and what her reaction was to the huge dildo.

I am not suggesting the whispering works. I am saying that something really strange is happening. She was wearing a see through shirt this morning. She has amazing tits and huge nipples. Her frame is tight and her natural tits are amazing. She always wears tshirts and covers up. She was very touchie feelie this morning. Usually, a bitch. She asked if I would stay home and go in late and have some coffee with her. She has no interest in my staying home. All of this is unusual behavior. This whispering stuff may be a goldmine. I am going to keep at it and see where this takes us.

Keep you posted.

SquirtKing 09-25-2010 08:12 AM

After a few nights whispering she woke up and started to wearing a short skirt. It isn't the best weather for it so I can confirm some strange things happens.

A question for the specialists: how many things can you whisper to her?

hephaestus 09-25-2010 04:36 PM

Building off a small number of triggers.
 
I think its important to follow the rule of keeping it simple and by this I mean don't try too many at the same time - but over time use the trigger to build more onto what started as something else - for instance the trigger originally used for just getting her to use a dildo once having become a habit / routine can then be reused for advancing other areas of opening her up to that IR / bi / slut or whatever other experience is wanted. Because as one thing becomes a habit having her familiar with that word to do with advancing her IR / bi / slut experience is going to be easier to attach to the new stuff.

If you have too many triggers for too many different things - its going to get confusing for you and possibly her own sub / unconscious.

As in everything there is exceptions to every rule and by this you may want a trigger to encompass a particular place like a particular bar where black people are known to hang out or a particular person is hanging out and then using that as the trigger word itself to get her to go there by associating that name with the enjoyable suggestions you have been whispering at night about her "when I say the name ........... you are so curious to visit there wanting to visit there, needing to visit there. and suddenly you will feel compelled to go there and hang out enjoying the company of the ........... there"

I ask you to notice my chunking up and building on suggestion from the "wanting" to the "compelled" - this is just an example and so you can remember to change and words to suit YOU.

This can be applied all the way along any LW session.

Remember every session will benefit greatly from starting with just a simple "I love you very much" - this creates two things of importance allowing the unconscious to relax and 'testing the water' to make sure she is deep enough to not waking.

This can then be followed with "You are going deeper and deeper into sleep just listening to the sound of my voice taking you deeper and deeper just listening to the sound of my voice taking you deeper and deeper down...... all the way down just listening to my voice and obeying just listening to my voice and obeying everything I say taking you deeper and deeper down ....all the way down listening and obeying my voice. Your going all the way down listening and obeying me and reaching deep into your core values and beliefs and opening the box of that natural slut the slut that's always been there waiting to be allowed out to play. Now listen and obey my voice as I tell you to......................"

Again this is a working example BUT change anything to suit YOU.

Jacko1 09-25-2010 05:40 PM

Guys,

I get back from work and she tells me that she used the extra lg dildo. Remember, thats the one she hated. I asker what she did with it? She said she was so excited she could not last more than a minute?

Help me understand that one. She would not use it and now so excited, she cannot last more than a minute.

Something to this...............

dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF 09-27-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacko1 (Post 12368)
Guys,

I get back from work and she tells me that she used the extra lg dildo. Remember, thats the one she hated. I asker what she did with it? She said she was so excited she could not last more than a minute?

Help me understand that one. She would not use it and now so excited, she cannot last more than a minute.

Something to this...............

Congratulations Jacko1, it would seem your girl is taking the nudge and progressing towards your goal for her. If she went from hating it to using it on her own then you can't argue with that as progress.

One thing I have found that I believe has to help her want more than she is getting is doing your best to refrain from having sex with her. I know this is difficult but not impossible. As she begins progressing towards the desire for more and better sex without actually getting sex at all then that itch grows bigger. We all know what happens when an itch grows without a scratch for it. The desire for that scratch grows bigger than the itch and that means more progress.

Some may disagree with this but I like to stick with what works and this has proven to be effective for me.

Update on Julies part time work situation that I have been spending some LW time on. I posted earlier about having a discussion with the two black gals that she works with part time. Her boss just got a contract to set up a system for a company in another state and he is taking six people with him for a week to go up and do this setup.

Lisa and Whitney, the two black gals are staying here to keep the wheels rolling on the work here and they have told Julie that they need her to plan on working all weekend. The boss told them that he will be paying double overtime for this week. With them being full time they already make more than Julie does as part time so she will be working at her regular pay while Lisa and Whitney will be making nearly three times more than Julie. I figure they will make Julie do three times more work than they will too and who knows what else she will have to do for them.(wink).

I have until Saturday to work more LW on Julie to not only do what she is told but to also want to do it for them. To be their weekend slave and do whatever pleases them. To wonder what they have between their legs and the desire to find out. I would never have tried this without the little meeting I had with the two and without being comfortable with the outcome of that little meeting with them.

I will update again ASAP.

cuckold pimp 09-27-2010 02:36 PM

Not a "whisperer" per say but I think these methods would have worked. I had an extremely conservative wife but one I love deeply. One day I simply admitted to her that the thought of her being "taken" by well endowed black men was my biggest fantasy. At first she was shocked and repulsed but watching porn and using a black dildo on her got her in the mood. Now several years later she uses a chastity cage to torment and frustrate my penis and has 3 regular black lovers who satisfy her sexually....and we've never been closer or happier together. it was very liberating being able to tell her the truth, and now that she has embracedsex with black men we have no reason to ever hide secrets again.

Jacko1 09-28-2010 01:42 AM

Thanks for the positive comments. I have been trying to whisper the last few nights but her breathing is light and she is by no means in a heavy rhythm.

I am going to take your advice and hold off and just whisper for the next few weeks. Should be interesting. Maybe I will leave her the big fat dildo and see if she begins to use it.

No sex will be tough but its not as if I get it regularly anyway.

Keep you posted.

mikewhitey 09-28-2010 10:19 PM

LWs working for me
 
Well I've turned a conservative wife into a woman that now enjoys black dildo with IR fantasy play using LW and am still getting more and more out of her. I personally use it on her whilst I get her to explore the black men on white women fantasy and some allusions to other women with her. This whole mustnt have sex with her is something I dont use though encouraging her in LW to use the dildo and then for her to do this is better than me using my white dick. Interestingly though to use the black dildo and then get the chance to put my white dick in and then almost instantly blow my load just draws attention to the size difference anyway.
Something odds definitely happening and I think admitting this LW stuff is the cause is a forgone conclusion but be nice to read in posts rather than taking it for granted.
Its good to hear of all your successes because it spurs me on too and just so alls clear to you all I think we owe Hep a very big debt of thanks and we arent going to take that for granted.
I know im scratching the surface of this LW subconscious stimulation and have been reading up heavily on the hypnosis trance inductions since being pointed in the right direction by Hep.
I used to be a member on cuckoldsforum where this guy who runs it offers a ebook ultimate cuckold manual which was $30.00 or something doesnt include this LW.
So heres this LW method given away free and the fucking thing works! Hey I dont want Hep to start charging but like tnblackstallion says this kind of thing people would pay for!

mikewhitey 09-28-2010 10:24 PM

Keep at it raleigh
 
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Originally Posted by oldraleighguy (Post 12313)
I'm using this to try to encourage my wife to go farther with a guy she's already talking to. He makes suggestions, and she laughs them off, or changes the subject, but he's persistent. So I'm using LW to try to get her to realize that if she wants to continue to be his close friend, she's going to have to accept the sexual part of the friendship. I whisper "Jane, you want John, you have to tell him you want him. You will email him, and tell him you want to sleep with him." I keep repeatiing things like that- but I just started a few days ago, and I don't have any success to report yet.

Keep at it man believe its worth it if you do!

Durfer 09-29-2010 04:46 PM

Well I've been trying the whispering for about a week now & I think its working. Last night, I kept repeating "You love black cock!/You want black cock fucking your pussy hard" & twice she said in her sleep, (To my suprise) Uh-huh! This morning she was very loving & turned on as I kept telling her how much I loved her & reinforcing that fact. Have not tried to give her a keyword yet, (taking it slow) figured I would try this first & see where it goes. What do you guys think so far?:eek:

dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF 09-29-2010 06:42 PM

Mikewhitey, It sounds like you are making progress and that is fantastic. I mentioned about trying to refrain from having sex with your girl and that still holds true but not so much that you risk having her go the other direction on you. Maybe I should have said to cut down the amount of times you have sex with her. But I believe it is a very good thing when you do have sex with her that you blow a load as quick as possible. This tends to leave them somewhat still in need of satisfaction. With that need burning inside her coupled with the opportunities beginning to float around for a chance at having the greatest sexual experience of her life could very well give her the nudge she needs to go for it.

A white female that loves to fuck and they all do, with an itch inside her that still needs some more scratching, that gets the answer to her sexual frustrations waved in front of her face will at least think about what it can do for her needs and might very well light her fuse of curiosity to the point that causes her to further exploration into this new chance for ecstasy.

Durfer, that sounds like progress also. Any type of encouraging and agreeable attitude or response that you get from her is a plus as opposed to getting shot right out of the sky by her. Take it slow, add a little as you see fit and enjoy the ride to your ultimate destination for her.

My girl has got to work all weekend so that should prove to be rather interesting considering the recent developments that have surfaced with her part time job. I will let you know more on that when I do.

hephaestus 09-29-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Durfer (Post 12536)
Well I've been trying the whispering for about a week now & I think its working. Last night, I kept repeating "You love black cock!/You want black cock fucking your pussy hard" & twice she said in her sleep, (To my suprise) Uh-huh! This morning she was very loving & turned on as I kept telling her how much I loved her & reinforcing that fact. Have not tried to give her a keyword yet, (taking it slow) figured I would try this first & see where it goes. What do you guys think so far?:eek:

Durfer this I think is excellent. Your testing this before going deeper into the Loving whispers methods with triggers embedding for conscious use.
Can I ask you a question out of curiosity does your good lady have any habit of 'zoning' out easily.

I'd answer you guys in full and will when I get the chance because each and everyone of you are getting it and it's good to see it. I'm really tied up with working commitments and also spreading the LW further and wider and am about to bust it open on some of the largest online communities which probably offers great opportunities but also the greatest dangers with getting the negative flamers moving in and burning the idea as quickly as they can.

Just one other thing if you guys can spread the word to link to this thread to the other wannabes you meet around the net you'll be helping more guys getting their gals slut orientated and that can't be a bad thing can it.


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