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[mikewhitey]

There are some things that, in my opinion, make it easier to steer your woman into a receptive state of mind concerning becoming a slut for BBC. Part of it is natural temptation, part of it is the attraction of the “taboo”, part of it is the undeniable desire to feel sexy, attractive, and desired. There is also the issue of trust and security.

To emphasize any one of these while neglecting the other could have less than desirable results. To take them in reverse order, you can’t do anything in this area unless your woman trusts you implicitly. Her first instinct is going to be to assume you are looking for a loophole to have an affair of your own, she’s going to question your loyalty to her and for any woman, but especially a sub, that’s going to threaten her feeling of security. You will be wise to give a great deal of attention to reassuring her in this area. This goes hand in hand with framing your hints toward the idea of swinging in terms which play to anyone’s natural desire to be found attractive. I know in our situation, more ground was covered when she became willing to believe that she really was sexy and desirable - hot - than by any other single factor. It’s more important to make her feel hot than almost anything else that will be suggested to you henceforth. Once you have that pair of factors firmly in place, and this should be done as much as is possible BEFORE you ever approach the idea of swinging or IR activity, THEN you can begin to execute the more direct program.

What you will do, from now on, is to identify, help her to recognize, and feed her desire to break free from the limitations that society has placed on her and experience the height of sexuality. The breaking of societal rules (in its various forms) is the natural excitement of challenging “taboos”. Whether it’s public nudity, bisexuality, or any of a hundred other “kinks” - among which IR sex, and promiscuity are certainly listed - all of us, male or female, find a certain thrill in defying those limits. Your job is to develop a hunger in your woman to free herself from that bondage. Further, you have to channel that broad desire in the direction of fucking black men, if that’s what you desire to see her do.

In part three, I’ll finally get down to the brass tacks of methodology that has worked for many husbands before you.



Okay then, this one will probably be brief because most of it is stating the obvious. You lay the groundwork on this subtly, At first you do it just a little at a time. First of all, if you do not talk during foreplay - shame on you! Get started. Whenever your mouth is not in action on some part of her body, by manipulating her mind. Tell her how hot and sexy she is, how every man would love the chance to fuck her (if course language shocks her, use some euphemism to start (do NOT say “make love”....that’s what people IN love do). Say “get with you” or some such to start but you want to move her towards the coarser stuff. Remember, a key element here is to play to her ego. The more you can get her to see herself as a sexually deliverable person, the better. If you can get her to respond vocally, that’s a very good, but not essential, element. Get her to the point where she begs, demands, to be fucked (this involves LONG foreplay sometimes so man-up. One good play here is to take her to the edge through foreplay and not let her have satisfaction until she begs to be fucked - in those words - and when she does, ask her “Who do you want to fuck you?” and see if you can get her to say “anybody!” This is not essential, but it shows you have an advanced case.

Is your lady accustomed to porn? If not, this may be a tough hurdle for you - especially if you have a really “good girl” who thinks it’s degrading. Start her then, with very subtle, soft core stuff. She’s a woman and she will react...if she doesn’t, you probably have a woman who can’t be a slut ever. Escalate it as quickly as possible to the harder stuff but strive mightily to stick to the “amateur” look porn - the stuff that sledges to be involving the MILF next door. Try to avoid the plastic tit doped-up looking girls with skyscraper shoes and huge tats for now. Why? Because you are not just trying to turn her on for a quick fuck, you are trying to change how she sees herself. And as you spend many hours telling her how hot and desirable she is, and she also spends time seeing what hot and desirable wives do....the two will mingle in her mind on a subconscious level. Of course, it goes without saying that the male population of these movies show, over time, increasingly be black men.
An important aspect of this...when black guys start showing up, begin to incorporate that in your foreplay. I assume you are pushing her buttons while the movie is playing (if you aren’t, you are insane) and when you see a black guy on screen, you comment in subtle ways - “Isn’t she loving that big black rod” or “he looks like he’s pounding her good with the big black dick” or whatever...but always emphasizing the word black. If he’s hitting a white girl, you must of course, mention that too - “mmmmm, that little white girl is loving that big black dick in her pussy, huh?”


At some point, when you ask her questions during foreplay, you want to find the chance to say something like “Did you ever wonder what it would feel like to have a big black cock in you?” or “you ever wonder if it’s true what they say?” and when she asks what, you of course give her the size myth or brag on how good they are or even the “once you go black...” cliche.
By the time this stage is done, you should be regular viewers of exclusively interracial porn, you should never have a sex session in which you don’t call to her mind, at her horniest point, the images she say of black dicks and white women, and you should be able to get her to at least allude to a curiosity or a turn on about the subject. If you haven’t by now, you should introduce the thickest black dildo you think she can handle. Forget length, if it’s at least 8" it’s fine....but be sure it’s fat. The combined effect of foreplay, good IR porn, and a fat black dildo are gold. She should, it goes without saying, NEVER see a white dick on film by now.

Finally, if she’s a drinker, it would not hurt to lightly associate drinking with this stage since some “good girls” need the mental “excuse” to play that comes from blaming it on liquor. So it’s good to have the association made.

[mikewhitey]

The next stage is a continuation of the last, except that you begin to take things outside the bed. You should, of course, already be trying to keep her sexual energies maxed out. If you haven’t at least TRIED to fuck her on the kitchen table by now, then step it up. Now you begin to take it outside the house. Encourage her to show more skin - “after all,” you testify, “anyone as hot as you are ought to take advantage of it”...to the extent she does, she again is reminded of herself being a hot, sensual woman, and not just “wife and mom”. Another big advantage of this is that you point out to her guys who are checking her out. They should ALWAYS be black guys, and lie if you have to. Again, it’s critical she feel desirable and specifically desirable to black guys. You follow up on this be asking her things during foreplay like “Did you see that UPS guy checking your ass? He wants you baby! (She protests probably) Nothing, I just saw him checking you out...I bet you’d love to see what brown can do for you, huh?” (Big smile and wink). Try to get her to confess she had a thought of wondering about a black guy as often as you can.

Assuming this is successful (if she’s not seriously ordering you to “knock it off with that black guy shit cause I don’t like that!” it’s been successful) now is the time you seriously begin planting the swinger idea in her head. You should be careful here to make it ALWAYS about HER. “I’d love to watch another man fuck you” NOT “We should start swinging” - she may hem and haw on this decision for a long time....just keep pushing the buttons you see working and making sure as much as possible her sexual thinking is subconsciously associated with fucking blacks.


Now, you are nearing the moment of truth. She is going to arrive at a point in her own mind, though she may or may not reveal it to you, where she is too intrigued by the concept to NOT try it..I say this because the woman who is adamantly never ever going to has already gotten off the bus before you get to this point. If a woman is still playing along, she wants it, she will do it, she just hasn’t realized it yet. But somewhere in this stage, she is going to come to that realization. If she keeps that choice to herself, you may find that she presses ahead and follows through with it without your participation - especially if she works outside the home and has that sort of flexibility. You should be prepared to deal with that.

On the other hand, she may tell you - probably the first time in the heat of passion - that she is willing. In fact, she may affirm her willingness during foreplay or sex several times, then deny it later, before she reaches the point that she will tell you in a non-sexual situation that she is willing. At this point, the trail diverges in several directions. There is no one specific course once she says yes. For some couples, you go out to a club, employ some alcohol, and let nature take it’s course. For others, you methodically solicit interest on line and carefully screen those who have interest and meet for a discreet hotel encounter. Still others take a vacation to some distant city where she can “let her hair down”. There are also swing clubs, the staged seduction, and several other variations. No one method is right for every couple because circumstances vary too greatly from location to location and situation to situation.

On a final note, you should be considering by this point just what the final outcome is that you are going for. Understanding, of course, that it may get out of your control and take on a life of it’s own, it’s still good for you to have a “vision” of what your end game is. For many couples, once she has her first, the mission is accomplished. On the other extreme are couple who are not just looking for “a little extra spice” but seek to entirely redefine who she is sexually. If you tend towards the latter end of that spectrum, it may be that it comes natural to her to be ever-expanding her sexual adventurousness, or it may be that you still have a great deal of manipulation ahead of you - it all depends on her personality, her previous conditioning, and how extreme the change is you want to make. In any case, you need to exhibit considerable patience. Many women have a very deep conditioning in the mental habits of a “good girl” and as much as they want to be free of those restraints, it does not always come easy.

Good luck to you and to her on your journey, and if you have SPECIFIC questions, feel free to ask in this thread.

[mikewhitey]

Originally Posted by dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF

Hello all.

I decided to go ahead and post on this after spending much time reading, learning and experimenting with these procedures on my girlfriend. She is one of those rather faithful to one man types with no visible desire to change that. Until now anyway.

I started out rather slow on this because I didn't want to alert her about what I was doing. The longer I went soft voicing her during sleep the more I was noticing that she was responding to it and the happier I was becoming because of it.

This is amazing the way it works. Recently I tried a little test on her while we were in the car. I seen a black guy waiting to cross the road as we pulled closer to him. I said, easy there pencil dick. Don't walk across there yet and she said pencil dick? Why would you say that? I said I don't know, that's probably what he is. She said ha, I doubt it. You maybe but I doubt he is.

I was surprised at what I just heard and she actually caught me by surprise so much that I wanted to keep the conversation going but I drew a blank on what to say. But I do know that she would never had said that without these procedures and it is only just beginning.

It does work and it gives many of us the snowballs chance that we never before thought we had. I am truly enjoying this as I try new things to test her to see what type of reactions she has. I will update soon on this and thanks a bunch for this invaluable info.

Hi DWMwantstoOBEY, Really didn't want to hijack your reply so figured moving it to the end of my copy and paste session!

Let me be the first to congratulate you on this success so far and where it is your heading.

My wife has always been too faithful to me and in some ways repressed or may be conservative and then along came these methods and now since have hit me square on the confused organ I call a brain. I am still totally taken a back at how far and fast weve come.
Are you locking in the use of you saying pencil dick to her constantly thinking about BBC when you say it and are you encouraging her to say it to you and thinking about BBC when she does.

As to really enjoying this right back at ya because its really opened the lid on her exploring with me firstly using big black vibrator on her and hopefully soon with my motivation the ultimate.

Thats the other thing is seeing her reactions all the time to different over nights LW stimulating her desires as well as laying there giving these suggestions and pulling my cock keeps me on edge enough and desiring enough not to finish up early.

But I would say to everyone here that you got to take occasions out and sometimes give it a little rest. I think it helps to then further go in kind of bursts. Always giving yourself a breather and sometimes going days without and always picking those days where shes tired. Worst thing is trying to do it on a restless night or one where shes had a good few nights sleep followed by easy working.

[hephaestus]

Originally Posted by dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF

Hello all.

I decided to go ahead and post on this after spending much time reading, learning and experimenting with these procedures on my girlfriend. She is one of those rather faithful to one man types with no visible desire to change that. Until now anyway.

I started out rather slow on this because I didn't want to alert her about what I was doing. The longer I went soft voicing her during sleep the more I was noticing that she was responding to it and the happier I was becoming because of it.

This is amazing the way it works. Recently I tried a little test on her while we were in the car. I seen a black guy waiting to cross the road as we pulled closer to him. I said, easy there pencil dick. Don't walk across there yet and she said pencil dick? Why would you say that? I said I don't know, that's probably what he is. She said ha, I doubt it. You maybe but I doubt he is.

I was surprised at what I just heard and she actually caught me by surprise so much that I wanted to keep the conversation going but I drew a blank on what to say. But I do know that she would never had said that without these procedures and it is only just beginning.

It does work and it gives many of us the snowballs chance that we never before thought we had. I am truly enjoying this as I try new things to test her to see what type of reactions she has. I will update soon on this and thanks a bunch for this invaluable info.

Welcome to LW - dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF.

Absolutely right to start slow and softly and a good thing for guys to remember.

Hope you have much fun using the techniques and methods.

Hey mikewhitey thats one hell of a good thread and I know who it was by too and what board it was off. Sad end to that place what with charging for forum for people having entered their very own content over the years. I got banned for raising my head with this final salvo
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Wow XXXXXX just out of interest are you the PR advisors for BP ?

You plainly and simply lied to all. You are now attempting to cover
over the lie with rationalizations designed to justify the
Indefensible and consequently your arrogance and neurotic behavior
will show no bounds to stifling ability to allow reason, common sense and being honest with yourselves and us.

I also imagine you will seek to censor where you think you can get away without being largely noticed.
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Of course it was removed immediately. Anyway enough history!

[dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys. Let me thank you again for this schooling and the wonderful info on how to implement these procedures. Although I see them working more each time I use them I am trying not to overdo it or to use them at times that are not the best fit for them.

So far it has worked out well as she has not awoke and ask me what the hell I was saying or doing. But she has awoke the next mornings very creamy. My trigger word is definitely on the mark as I have watched her reactions after using the trigger word and was very pleased with what I seen.

I slipped in a porn video recently that had white on white as the first showing and the next two were IR BM/WF. The first one didn't do much for her and was without the trigger but the second one was triggered by me as I began rubbing that clit for her. I wasn't really watching the vid but focusing more on her clit. Every so often I would glance up to see if she was watching it and every time she was to my utter excitement.

I think I could move towards a few questions for her about IR sex now but I am going to press on with what I have been doing that is working for a while longer first.

The last thing I want to do is jump the gun and screw this up.

[tnblackstallion]

Interesting thread. I don't need to get my wife interested in fucking black guys (she already fucks me) but I like the results some are having in getting their wives to want to fuck more often. I wonder if this would work in getting the wife to consider another woman? (I don't by that crap about sexuality being "fixed"). The wife is conservative to the extreme (I definitely can't use the "introduce porn" technique) but still this all sounds interesting. Anyway, good luck to all trying the method!

[hephaestus]

Originally Posted by tnblackstallion

Interesting thread. I don't need to get my wife interested in fucking black guys (she already fucks me) but I like the results some are having in getting their wives to want to fuck more often. I wonder if this would work in getting the wife to consider another woman? (I don't by that crap about sexuality being "fixed"). The wife is conservative to the extreme (I definitely can't use the "introduce porn" technique) but still this all sounds interesting. Anyway, good luck to all trying the method!

Hi tnblackstallion

I get the angle your coming from tnblackstallion and there's no reason to suppose its unattainable.
At a slight different angle its something I'm working into my wifes LW to see her with other women in a bi-sex way and with black men at the same time.

Shes never previously showed any interest in other women PRIOR to this but since, now has talked about "If she ever did do a woman" two women have come up now as candidates (both celebs) and therefore unattainable BUT shows something is shifting in her.

I really think that the natural slut is there in perhaps all women and I think this is the most likely set of methods that can begin to tease and tweak it out.

When I think of anyone's psychology I see a mass of knots and especially when they have that 'conservative' or religious edge those knots can be imagined as pretty tight and needing a lot of picking and work and as you begin seeing those knots loosening well its a great feeling of accomplishment and further knowing that they can be unravelled.

Good luck on your own special project - that's what I like about this stuff is how it can be put to such diverse use.

Hep



dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF

totally agree you've got the right attitude for the task and lets face it hubbies know their wives better than anyone else - so in view of these methods can know what can be achieved at what pace and when and how. I hold a general view that baby steps or small steps or seeing it as stepping stones across a river are more appropriate for the task and yes there's exceptions to every rule BUT its a good guiding principle.

[prpl4wf]

This is good stuff Hep and Mike. I try to glean as much as I can from these forums to help me progress with my wife. Been working many years and from reading this I guess I have made progress. My wife has been a tough one in this area. She is religious, does not drink, and will not watch porn. Though over the years I have helped her become much more open sexually. I have hit on some things, such as telling her how hot she looks, which by the way, she is very hot. Many, many times telling her during foreplay and sex, how beautiful she would look with a black cock in her pussy. During those times I've always noticed she would immediately start grinding her pussy into me harder and faster, as well as sometimes saying she wants a black cock. I always tell her she could get any guy she wants, which she always replies " yeah right". She has never been confident about her looks and sexuality. Her first hubby cheated on her many times and I think that plays in to all of this. I still think deep down she wants to try bbc. Really tough to figure out which way to go. Sorry for rambling on

[hephaestus]

Hi Prpl4wf,

Does your wife recognise any of her own issues. Has she ever suggested that she knows she is bound by her past or alternatively does she realise she lacks confidence.
The reason I ask is that there are self hypnosis audio files that may help her to push past confidence issues.
Though like I've said on the PDF'ed thread linked at the outset of this thread here - confidence of body for women is a major wide spread hangup and no matter whether in others minds her being hot etc that unless they see themselves that way again it is a issue your having to face to overcome.
I'll drop the links of the self hypnosis audio files if their of use encouraging wives to listen. I'll have to search back through to find them.

[hephaestus]

Ok guys here's the self help audio hypnosis file links from the original PDF document linked at start of this thread.

If folks haven't taken the time then it's a good idea to read the entire PDF. Now I know how long it is and you can know something this well worth doing is worth doing well.

And to all those other guys who I know are in the same boat - these are links to a external share folder which took me the best part of an afternoon to upload to - downloading is much faster!! - in fact you can download them all at once - unlike many other share sites!

These are all general purpose confidence building files for our good ladies - and all these my own wife has used to increasing her energy and confidence. She's found these tremendously effective and I can attest to these facts!

http://www.4shared.com/file/49004259/c865c684/Buildselfesteem.html?dirPwdVerified=4099e86e

http://www.4shared.com/file/49004260/9a942de3/developselfconfidence.html?dirPwdVerified=4099e86e

http://www.4shared.com/file/49004262/749a4ccf/energyincreasemotivation.html?dirPwdVerified=4099e 86e

http://www.4shared.com/file/49004266/73f788d6/thinkpositively.html?dirPwdVerified=4099e86e

http://www.4shared.com/file/49004264/9df9e9fa/Loseweightnow.html?dirPwdVerified=4099e86e

http://www.4shared.com/file/49004265/eafed96c/permanentnaturalweightloss.html?dirPwdVerified=409 9e86e

All the audio mp3's are in compressed winRAR format - this is for stopping the 4shared site from viewing the file names and therefore shielding against removal. All are locked so that they cannot be maliciously altered and all are code verified for the same reason.