Interracial Forums » Interracial Forum » General Interracial Discussion

[Jacko1]

Hep,

What other chat rooms would you reccomend that have similar discussions? I enjoy this forum and others but welcome learning and listening to interracial BBC discussions. Its helpful as I work on this aspect of the training.

Thanks

[dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF]

Jacko, I am not sure if you are wanting chat rooms or other forums like this one. If you want to chat direct with others then you will find all types at the Dark Cavern chat room. You can watch videos and leave comments at the Black Cock Church website. Maybe I won't get slammed for posting other websites here but the common goal is to push the lifestyle and both of those sites do that.

[Durfer]

Well I've been working on this for quite awhile now & i can say that I'm having to work through some things with her.

First is the notion that sex is dirty & not to be talked about. She was taught this growing up, & I see now how deep rooted childhood lessons can effect people.

Second, she tells me "size dosent matter to me". (I know she is saying this because she does not want to hurt me) We have been using a 10" dildo about once a month for about a year. At first her attitude was, "I'm doing this only because YOU like it" but in time, she has gotten to the point where she has really violent orgasms when we play like this & now she LOVES doing it. I recognize that she is TELLING me one thing, ("Size Dont matter") not wanting to hurt me, but her body is telling a completly different story.(Wanting a bigger cock) She absolutely loves getting it deep & hard and begs for it deeper while I lick her pussy. I know her well enough to know that once I get her here, she will love being fucked hard by a big black cock & its my hope to someday have her a regular "Friend" she can count on to fuck her in a way I cant. The key for her is going to be making it HER idea. To answer your question hep, no, no habit of "Zoning out" Sorry about rambling, just thought I'd give a little background info.

[hephaestus]

Originally Posted by Durfer

Well I've been working on this for quite awhile now & i can say that I'm having to work through some things with her.

First is the notion that sex is dirty & not to be talked about. She was taught this growing up, & I see now how deep rooted childhood lessons can effect people.

Second, she tells me "size dosent matter to me". (I know she is saying this because she does not want to hurt me) We have been using a 10" dildo about once a month for about a year. At first her attitude was, "I'm doing this only because YOU like it" but in time, she has gotten to the point where she has really violent orgasms when we play like this & now she LOVES doing it. I recognize that she is TELLING me one thing, ("Size Dont matter") not wanting to hurt me, but her body is telling a completly different story.(Wanting a bigger cock) She absolutely loves getting it deep & hard and begs for it deeper while I lick her pussy. I know her well enough to know that once I get her here, she will love being fucked hard by a big black cock & its my hope to someday have her a regular "Friend" she can count on to fuck her in a way I cant. The key for her is going to be making it HER idea. To answer your question hep, no, no habit of "Zoning out" Sorry about rambling, just thought I'd give a little background info.

Durfer yes working through this kind of thing is hard going - my wife had religious based issues around this kind of thing that you've experienced.

Consider subverting that energy of shame and channeling it through LW with the use of acknowledging her past by whispering to her that she knows and accepts the faults of her imposed past and the unhealthy shame she was made to feel then and as she loves you accepts the need in her the deep down needing to be a naturally submissive slut. Now accepting she can be a naturally submissive slut.

(being made to feel she can be the submissive slut allows her to giving permission to herself to being 'taken' - to accept she is not in control and therefore can accept what happens is outside of the needing of that pasts attempt at control through shame - so in a sense is not her responsibility) This is part of a much larger desensitization program where you deepen desire, bring out fantasy play and using dildo on her. All that time edging her inevitably towards the goal - BUT it might take you longer than others.


I'd serious;y consider that using LW you may need to free up her past by working on this sense of shame she has.
I'd like you to notice that shame is different from guilt - shame is a outside psychological force imposed by others onto a person and that guilt is a sense of knowing when we've done something wrong from within a result of our 'moral' compass.

On one level size probably doesn't matter that much BUT when seen in the light of the imposition of shame on her suggests this is more to do with that same early teaching of sex is dirty so that we can infer that the larger the cock is the more dirty it will be, the more pleasure it could give the more dirty it will be - seen in the context of the warped teaching of sex is dirty we can see how this again holds a certain idiotic ideological hold. Thats not to mean your wife is anything other than intelligent BUT shes just had a heap of shit to deal with from her past!
The fact that she gets off on that is a GOOD SIGN and shows her rebellion against that old BS by quietly reworking it into sexplay!

I was interested in knowing about whether she had day dreams because of what you said earlier makes me think she may have particularly strong susceptibility to LW and 'proper' hypnosis.

I'll happily chat by pm or email much more if wishing to offer further insight.

Hephaestus, Tony.

Originally Posted by Jacko1

Hep,

What other chat rooms would you reccomend that have similar discussions? I enjoy this forum and others but welcome learning and listening to interracial BBC discussions. Its helpful as I work on this aspect of the training.

Thanks

Jacko sent you a pm reply respecting this forum as it seems good and wouldn't want to plug any links for other places on the thread.

[tnblackstallion]

Warning. If your wife is too conservative do NOT try this. My wife faked being sleep, told me the next day I creeped her out and is now barely talking to me. A word to the wise.

[hephaestus]

That's sad tnblack sadly it's more to do with light sleeping than too conservative as expressed throughout the whole of the thread light sleeping is a danger for this and whispering as quietly as possible is the only deterrent.
The protection is the talking in your sleep so that if someone woke up you faking sleep then waking up and asking them a little angrily what their talking about and damn I was having such a good dream.
The light sleeping would have led her to being aware and testing you the next night and that's what it is the light sleeping is the issue here.

Imagine guys that have super conservative wives but have good levels of normal sleep. Depriving them of the chance to resolve internal conflicts between outward controlling conservative and inner slut is offering something much greater the chance to succeed seeing White wives in the arms of black lovers with loving whispers helping hands.

[Durfer]

Yeah, I dont really have that to worry about (getting caught) as my girl already knows how much I would love to see her on her hands & knees getting her pussy and/or mouth filled with a 10" black cock. I have told her as much. She says no, as most women usually do, asks why I would want to share her, (dont you love me?) ect., I have told her repeatedly that the biggest turn on for me in this is watching the expression on her face, listening to the sound of her purring (as I call it) voice as she is being streched & touched in places she has never felt before (places I just physically cannot go) & that its not about the person she is with, but its ALL about her enjoyment. Seeing her being satisfied is what gets me off.
Hep, I know you are exactly right in that this will take more time than most, but I honestly believe I can & will get her there as I firmly believe (after knowing her for 25 years), that deep in her heart she would love this & wants it. She just cant seem to bring herself to admit it to herself. Once that happens, and whenever it happens, I think the whole thing will progress easier & faster. She is already refering to "black" things with an Impish grin if you know what I mean. your observation on "The bigger the cock the more dirty it is I think is spot on. Also your shame versus guilt is a point i have not thought about. All I know is that the only thing i care most about is getting her released from her inhabitions. You are also correct in that i have had a plethera of shit to work through with this girl as her parents really screwed her up as a child.

[mikewhitey]

Hi Durfer,

I feel for you with the screwed up shit; mine falls in the same category too. Making for some real past pain with getting her to think about anything to do with other men.

Interestingly it doesnt seem to have ultimately inhibited her with this LW stuff as it worked under the surface and brought out that slut despite her past hangups. In someways it seems to have enhanced the dirty slut aspect for her and I think Heps got it right about this becoming a way for her to bypass responsibility by surrendering to the idea of being a submissive slut. We re still at the dildo and fantasy IR play stage but I can see this going all the way to her really enjoying herself with the real thing. I am using a inflatable black dildo on her to keep her cunt beyond the capacity of my cock for the few occasions she now lets me in and I have taken to telling her to refuse my white cock in preference for accepting the real black superior cock and the black dildo with me only being allowed to lick her cunt to prepare her for sex sessions.

Tnblackstallion sorry to hear your problems . All I can say is that LW worked and works for me but my wife is a relatively good night sleeper. If it wasnt for LW I wouldnt be where I am now with what Ive acheved using it. Id still be as fucking frustrated as I ever had been with getting no where with no idea and knowing she wouldnt even think about using any kind of dildo or talk about ANYTHING to do with sex. This has been a 100% turn around and I wont ever let up on it and my wife has no idea that I wanted this I just couldnt bridge the subject with her and now its her idea her IR fantasy and her desire to being filled up and telling me she loves the feeling of being stretched out with that big black inflatable dildo and goes into fantasy talk with me going through scenes of black men wanting her taking her and using her sub slut white body. Thats in the space of 2 months . My advice is if shes a real light sleeper forget it to anyone with the idea. But I tell you I wont be forgetting the idea this year next year or ever. LW ROCKS!!!!!!!!

[hephaestus]

Originally Posted by Durfer

Yeah, I dont really have that to worry about (getting caught) as my girl already knows how much I would love to see her on her hands & knees getting her pussy and/or mouth filled with a 10" black cock. I have told her as much. She says no, as most women usually do, asks why I would want to share her, (dont you love me?) ect., I have told her repeatedly that the biggest turn on for me in this is watching the expression on her face, listening to the sound of her purring (as I call it) voice as she is being streched & touched in places she has never felt before (places I just physically cannot go) & that its not about the person she is with, but its ALL about her enjoyment. Seeing her being satisfied is what gets me off.
Hep, I know you are exactly right in that this will take more time than most, but I honestly believe I can & will get her there as I firmly believe (after knowing her for 25 years), that deep in her heart she would love this & wants it. She just cant seem to bring herself to admit it to herself. Once that happens, and whenever it happens, I think the whole thing will progress easier & faster. She is already refering to "black" things with an Impish grin if you know what I mean. your observation on "The bigger the cock the more dirty it is I think is spot on. Also your shame versus guilt is a point i have not thought about. All I know is that the only thing i care most about is getting her released from her inhabitions. You are also correct in that i have had a plethera of shit to work through with this girl as her parents really screwed her up as a child.

Originally Posted by mikewhitey

Hi Durfer,

I feel for you with the screwed up shit; mine falls in the same category too. Making for some real past pain with getting her to think about anything to do with other men.

Interestingly it doesnt seem to have ultimately inhibited her with this LW stuff as it worked under the surface and brought out that slut despite her past hangups. In someways it seems to have enhanced the dirty slut aspect for her and I think Heps got it right about this becoming a way for her to bypass responsibility by surrendering to the idea of being a submissive slut.

I'm not making light of it and being serious I think there's a lot of us out there with wives and girlfriends that have more than their share of sex hangups from warped authority figures. We've got a support group going right here and didn't even really know it. I guess if our girls had a entirely healthy outlook on sex we probably wouldn't be here using this Loving Whispers to freeing them up and yeah I totally agree and finding myself nodding Durfer about everything your saying. I know people from the outside might find what we say odd about really loving our wives so much that we want to bring out that best in them that beautiful slutty nature that as far as I'm concerned is every womans birth right!

[dwm_Wants2Obey_BM_WF]

Originally Posted by tnblackstallion

Warning. If your wife is too conservative do NOT try this. My wife faked being sleep, told me the next day I creeped her out and is now barely talking to me. A word to the wise.

Don't let this completely stop you from trying LW but instead go with a different plan so to speak. Explore all your options on her sleeping habits. Such as, when she has had very little sleep or has worked extremely hard and very tired. Those times would present a possibility for you.

I think it would be wise for you though to run a test before going through with any attempts of using the procedures considering your recent situation.. For example, try saying her name several times in the exact loudness of your voice that you want to use and see if she wakes up or answers you. If she does you just wanted to say I love you. If she doesn't then slip in a quite but quickie round of LW and then be prepared to act as if you were having a dream if she wakes up. These types of back up options are essential to have ready and waiting to implement in case an uh oh situation were to arise.

There are many options and different plans that you can explore and put into action. If one presents a problem always have a plan B for that one that will cover for it if something goes wrong. Thinking up these different plans and options can be done at any time while you are doing whatever. Driving, mowing the grass,working on your car, watching TV. You will be amazed at what you can come up with if you just do some thinking on it.


Here are some of the main keys to success with this system.

Preparation: You must have the preparation complete on your part to have different plans for different situations already thought up and be ready to use them. Think about the different things that could possibly go wrong and have a plan ready in case it does.

Testing The Waters: Experiments that can be utilized to test the situation for a safe venture is important. Her sleeping habits are one area. Before doing any whispers of conversion on her try some whispers of a different style first to see if she responds. You can use whatever you like first that wouldn't raise a flag if she did wake up. Maybe, Honey, Sarah called you today and I forgot to tell you. That is safe and will test her alertness.

The Main Plans And Their Backup Options: Do some thinking on these. Have a main plan of action then a backup plan or option in case of trouble. I can't really stress this enough.If you try something and it backfires on you then not having that second option to switch to can leave you hung out there to dry. Not a good feeling. This will work for you if you have it in your mind what to do and are able to do it quickly to steer the situation away from trouble if need be.

Guys, you must be ready to counter any problems that may arise and your mind is waiting to go to work for you in finding these different options. So put it to work for you and you will be pleasantly surprised at what you can come up with and even more so at the results if and when you have to use them.